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Saga The evolution of characters

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by DarthWolvo23, Jul 15, 2011.

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  1. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Any chance of a thread where people could post pictures of the evolution of characters throughout the entire Saga?

    Perhaps focussing on the major players Anakin, Kenobi, Palpatine and the Droids etc initially
     
  2. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Were you thinking with captions, or just letting the photos do the talking? It's a good idea.
     
  3. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Either or both my friend
     
  4. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm gonna try to do Anakin in parts, but it may take a couple of days. This is what I have so far...

    Anakin's female influences

    (His attachments):
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinshmi1.jpg] [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinshmi2.jpg] [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinpadme.png]

    (His downslide):
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/watching.png]
    A happier moment with Padme
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinpadme2.png]
    Tension with Padme
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinpadme3.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinpadme4.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinpadme5.png]
    Partially turned
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-05h45m41s180.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-05h47m35s36.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vaderkin1.png]
    Further into the darkside
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vader-leia1.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vader-leia2.png]

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vader-leia3.png]
    Completely Vader


    Anakin's piloting
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/pod-pilot.png]

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/fighter-tpm.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/fighter-pilot.png]

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/anakinfighter-rots.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/rots-cockpit.png]

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vaderfighter-anh.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vadercockpit-anh.png]
     
  5. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    One more for now.

    Masters

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/slave-master.png]
    Anakin as a slave to his first Master, Watto

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/qui-gonmaster.png]
    Anakin is briefly under Qui-Gon's tutelage, the Master he should have had

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/padawan.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/Obimaster.png]
    Anakin then becomes Obi-Wan's apprentice

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h00m41s126.png]
    But as Anakin moves away from Obi-Wan he moves closer to Palpatine, a mentor he shares a bond with, and perhaps a better replacement for Qui-Gon

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/Obimaster2.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/Obimaster3.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h12m03s33.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h12m31s53.png]
    At the beginning of ROTS, Anakin and Obi-Wan are close. Obi-Wan is away for most of Anakin's turn

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h11m44s99.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/sith-apprentice.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h15m30s59.png]
    Anakin's connection to Palpatine eventually leads him to leave his old loyalties behind

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h04m49s48.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h28m09s223.png]
    A display of Vader's loyalty to his respective Masters

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-07h17m07s4.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/sithapprentice2.png]
    With Anakin physically impaired, and spiritually broken, he is now totally subservient to Sidious
     
  6. Riven_JTAC

    Riven_JTAC Jedi Master star 4

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    I really like the string of "piloting" pictures for some reason.
     
  7. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    HD you have made this thread legendary already.

    May I suggest the addition of TESB Vader talking to Sidious alongside the ROTS hologram equivalent.

    Carry on the good work my friend...
     
  8. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yes, very well done.

    I liked the female influences and Masters pictures and comparisons. I might add the TPM Padme comforting Anakin on the ship, but the montage is great without it.
     
  9. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Thanx guys. Argh I had this all ready to post and I accidentally exited :oops: It's not quite as good as the last ones, but interesting nonetheless.
    Anakin leaving the Jedi and returning, symbolised by Mace and Luke. Second attempt...

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/council-tpm.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-20h48m58s194.png]
    Testing Anakin
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/not-trained.png]
    "No he will not be trained"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-20h52m15s122.png]
    Anakin gives Mace a dirty look

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/aotc-mace.png]
    Ordered to stay on Tatooine

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/council-rots.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-20h56m12s183.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-20h56m27s77.png]
    Refused Mastership
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-20h57m02s178.png]
    "Take a seat, young Skywalker"

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h01m53s12.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h02m09s174.png]
    Anakin and Mace as allies
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h02m57s144.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h03m17s84.png]
    Reluctantly obeying orders to stay
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h05m17s7.png]
    The stage is set
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h04m15s153.png]
    Mace gesturing that he and Anakin are on the same side
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h05m49s66.png]
    "Anakin, I was right!"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h05m58s157.png]
    "You must choose!"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h06m38s48.png]
    Too dangerous to be left alive...
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h06m51s174.png]
    "He must live!"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h06m55s217.png]
    Giving in to fear
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h08m49s77.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h09m33s0.png]
    Surprised
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/sithapprentice.png]
    Pledge


    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h28m48s34.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h28m17s234.png]
    Skip ahead to ROTJ. Luke and Vader sense each other

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h30m03s16.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h30m01s0.png]
    Luke surrenders
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h30m33s58.png]
    "I've accepted the truth that you were once Anakin Skywalker, my father"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h30m37s96.png]
    "That name no longer holds any meaning for me"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h30m59s68.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h31m02s92.png]
    "Indeed you are powerful, as the Emperor has forseen"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h31m27s92.png]
    "Come with me"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h32m35s252.png]
    Vader/Anakin contemplating

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-16-21h47m29s241.png]
    "Obi-Wan has taught you well"

    [image=h
     
  10. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think its interesting how, over the course of the Saga, Obi Wans clothes become less light and more brown gets added as if he is becoming more balanced.

    Indeed Qui Gons cloak seemed very dark for a Jedi in TPM...
     
  11. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    I hadn't thought it could be for balance, care to elaborate? Luke's gradually darker clothes are more noticeable, as he grows in power and possibly closer to the dark side.
     
  12. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Lp
    I guess I view it, intentional or not, as Kenobi becoming less fully light and more balanced. Less orthodox old school Jedi and more independent.
     
  13. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    That's interesting, you could also say something similar about the ash marks on he and Anakin's clothes after the Mustafar duel.
    I'll try to post more over the next couple of days
     
  14. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Isn't there a theory that the patches on Bens ANH cloak are where they had the worst burn marks in ROTS?
     
  15. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    I hadn't heard that.
    I thought I'd post one more small, but obvious, one.

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-00h20m36s202.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-00h24m05s248.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-00h57m11s136.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/jedilight.png]

    Luke matures over the course of the movies, of course.
     
  16. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Another easy one :p
    All X-Wings

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/cockpit-anh.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/cockpit-esb.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/cockpit-rotj.png]

    EDIT- Any requests?
     
  17. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yep- Kenobi in all 6 movies in any similar poses...

    Padme through to Leia... evolution of mother and daughter...

    Luke and Leia relationship over the course OT the Saga...

    The Droids...

    The Sith apprentices...

    Sidious...

    Jango and Boba...

    The vehicles...

    That enough for ya? ;)
     
  18. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    K, I'll try to cover some of those soon. atm I thought of this fairly obvious one... some examples of Luke's increasing strength with the force.

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/cavea.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/caveb.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/cavec.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/caved.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/cavee.png]
    At the beginning of Empire Luke's telekenetic ability requires great concentration and focus. Here we see him struggling with it.
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/duela.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/duelb.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/duelc.png]
    By the time Luke's first duel with Vader, a fair way into his training, he can grab the saber quite quickly mid-fight.
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/thronea.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/throneb.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/thronec.png]
    By ROTJ, it is effortless. I like that he resists this until it reaches desperation.


    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/deflect1a.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/deflect1b.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/deflect1c.png]
    HAN: "Good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living... that's something else"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/deflect3a.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/deflect3b.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/deflect3c.png]


    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/lockstruggle.png]
    Luke struggling during a saber lock in ESB.
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/locksmile.png]
    But in a similar lock he has grown more confident.


    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/stairsesb.png]
    Luke is overpowered.
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/stairsrotj.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/stairsrotj2.png]
    Indication that he has become stronger than Vader.

    Thoughts?
     
  19. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    I thought I should clarify; this is ANH, ESB, and ROTJ
     
  20. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Not sure if my stuff is what you had in mind for your thread, Wolvo. Feel free to criticise any of the stuff I post :)

    A bit more on Luke's changes...

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-05h07m02s31.png]
    "No, my father didn't fight in the Clone Wars, he was a navigator on a spice freighter"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-02h35m07s19.png]
    "Your destiny lies with me Skywalker. Obi-Wan knew this to be true." "No."
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-02h25m07s164.png]
    "I will not fight you father"
    Luke's "evolving" stance on his father I guess.

    ANH
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-02h41m17s131.png]
    "You don't need to see his identification"
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-02h42m53s71.png]
    "I don't know how we got past those troops, I thought we were dead"
    ROTJ
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-02h09m35s60.png]
    "You will take me to Jabba now"
    Seeing Luke becoming a Jedi is always good
     
  21. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think u are taking the thread further than my basic idea so keep up the good work
     
  22. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Wolvo, when you say droids are you talking R2 and Threepio or droids in general? And with the Sith apprentices, you're talking about a progression through all of them right?

    Another (kind of obscure) observation about Luke's growing strength with the force...

    ANH
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-19-00h40m34s148.png]
    Obi-Wan coaxes Luke into using the force instead of his targeting computer
    ESB
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-19-00h23m12s227.png]
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-19-00h23m20s48.png]
    Training with Yoda
    ROTJ
    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-18-02h09m00s214.png]
    Luke as a Jedi

    Hmm... I'm kind of getting lazy now, I'll try to do some of your suggestions soon.
     
  23. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    With Droids I was talking threepio and r2. I like the idea that by Sith threepio is finally doing what he was originally designed for
    With sith apprentices I think it is sort of interesting how they, and grievous, are parts of vaders eventually sith personality
     
  24. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Some of this was already posted on the Visual Storytelling thread...

    Sith Apprentices (pt1)

    [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-19-01h02m11s61.png] [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-19-01h28m15s86.png] [image=http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/hevydevy1/vlcsnap-2011-07-19-02h05m11s229.png]


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  25. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Jan 30, 2005
    And we are back in business
    Brilliant.
     
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