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ST The First Order-Resistance Conflict

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Darth Chiznuk , Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Let's discuss the war for control of galaxy known as (until it receives an official title) the First Order-Resistance Conflict, the factions and characters involved and how it will play out over the course of this trilogy.

    FACTIONS:

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    The New Republic

    Brief: The New Republic is the legitimate government of a significant portion of the galaxy. Founded by the Alliance to Restore the Republic after its defeat of the Galactic Empire during the Galactic Civil War its principals are inherited from the Republic of old that fell during the conflict known as the Clone Wars. Freedom, democracy and justice for all citizens of the galaxy!

    Leaders: Chancellor Lanever Villecham (deceased)

    Capital/base of operations: Rotating, currently Hosnian Prime (destoyed in Starkiller Base attack)

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    The First Order

    Brief: Formed from the remnants of the once all powerful Galactic Empire that escaped the climactic Battle of Jakku and fled into the Unknown Regions the First Order aims to replace the New Republic as the dominant government of galaxy. Believing that the galaxy has been plunged into chaos following the Galactic Concordance which saw the end of the old Empire its leaders believe only they can bring order and stability back to the galaxy.

    Leaders: Supreme Leader Snoke, Kylo Ren, General Hux

    Capital/base of operations: Starkiller Base (destroyed during the Battle of Starkiller Base), Snoke's Mega Star Destroyer

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    The Resistance

    Brief: A ragtag militia formed by General Leia Organa to combat the growing threat of the First Order after Republic leadership refuses to take them seriously. Comprised of veterans of the Rebel cause and new blood with a calling to fight for freedom the Resistance is all that stands in the way of tyranny returning to the galaxy.

    Leaders: General Leia Organa, Admiral Ackbar, Admiral Statura, Commander Poe Dameron

    Capital/base of operations: D'Qar (discovered by the First Order), Crait (old Rebel Alliance base)

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    MISSIONS:

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    Map on Jakku

    Brief: Desperate to find her brother Luke Skywalker Leia sends Poe Dameron to Jakku to meet with an old acquaintance who might possess the clue needed to discover the lost Jedi's whereabouts.

    Operatives: Poe Dameron, BB-8

    Objective: To retrieve a map that leads to the location of the last known Jedi in the galaxy Luke Skywalker.

    Outcome: Poe Dameron retrieves the map but must entrust it to the droid BB-8 as he is captured by the First Order who are also after the map.

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    Finding the Master Codebreaker

    Brief: Hoping to escape the First Order fleet by disabling their hyperspace tracker, Poe Dameron sends Finn and the Resistance mechanic Rose Tico to the lavish city of Canto Bight on the desert planet of Cantonica to locate the one man capable of getting them past First Order security, the Master Codebreaker.

    Operatives: Finn, Rose Tico, BB-8

    Objective: Locate the Master Codebreaker.

    Outcome: Finn and Rose are arrested by Canto Bight police and thrown in jail where they meet the mysterious DJ who promises them that he can get them aboard Snoke's Mega Star Destroyer, the Supremacy.

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    Infiltrating the Supremacy

    Brief: Having snuck aboard the Supremacy, Finn, Rose, DJ and BB-8 masquerade as First Order officers and make their way to the breaker room in order to shut down the hyperspace tracker that threatens to be the undoing of the Resistance fleet.

    Operatives: Finn, Rose, DJ, BB-8

    Objective: Locate the breaker room and shut it down to disable the tracker.

    Outcome: The group are recognized as intruders by the First Order droid BB-9E and captured by Captain Phasma. Betrayed by DJ, they're sentenced to death but ultimately escape due to the destruction of the Supremacy.

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    ATTACKS/BATTLES:

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    Destruction of Hosnian Prime

    Brief: Having failed to retrieve the droid BB-8 on Jakku the First Order unveils its secret super weapon Starkiller Base by destroying the Hosnian System home of the New Republic Senate.

    Combatants: The First Order

    Outcome: The total destruction of the Hosnian System, New Republic leadership and an unknown portion of the New Republic fleet.

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    Battle of Takodana

    Brief: The first major skirmish between the Resistance and the First Order the battle begins when the First Order is alerted to the presence of the droid BB-8 on the planet Takodana. The droid is in possession of a map that leads to the location of the last Jedi Luke Skywalker but as they attempt to retrieve the droid Resistance X-Wings arrive having been alerted themselves.

    Combatants: Poe Dameron, Han Solo (deceased), Finn, Rey, Chewbacca, Kylo Ren

    Outcome: First Order retreat, kidnapping of Rey.

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    Battle of Starkiller Base

    Brief: After learning that their base on D'Qar is the next target for the destructive power of Starkiller Base the Resistance launches an attack against the oscillator a key weakness in the base. On the ground Han Solo, Finn and Chewbacca lead a desperate mission to deactivate the shields surrounding the planet and rescue the captive Rey.

    Combatants: Poe Dameron, Han Solo (deceased), Finn, Chewbacca, Rey, Kylo Ren, General Hux

    Outcome: Resistance victory, destruction of Starkiller Base, death of Han Solo

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    Battle of D'Qar

    Brief: ?

    Combatants: ?

    Outcome: ?

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    Battle of Crait

    Brief: ?

    Combatants: ?

    Outcome: ?

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    My intention is to update this OP as more information becomes available but for now it's an overview of the progression of the war and the main players. So in this thread we can speculate about anything from the outcome of individual battles, to strategy, the ultimate victor of the war, etc. Anything and everything about the conflict depicted in the ST!
     
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  2. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    does anyone know where crait is in relation to d'qar? i can't tell which maps are legit and somehow doubt crait is on the maps anyway?
     
  3. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't think they've updated the galactic map yet to include TLJ planets so it's anyone's guess. That said MSW has talked about the Resistance being chased across the galaxy by the First Order after the evacuation of D'Qar so I imagine it's pretty far.
     
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  4. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I kinda wish they'd name this. "First Order-Resistance Conflict" doesn't roll off the tongue or stick in your memory quite as well as the Clone Wars or Galactic Civil War.
     
  5. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    Too bad Yoda isn't here to come up with a name.
     
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  6. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    I agree! They could call it the Infinity War..
    lol?

    ...

    :oops:
     
  7. Gobi-1

    Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The War of Resistance
     
  8. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The FORC
     
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  9. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That name makes me want to stick a FORC in a light socket.
     
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  10. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    First Order-Resistance Conflict Engagement
     
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  11. dogprivilege

    dogprivilege Jedi Master star 4

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    first order-resistance conflict extravaganza
     
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  12. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    The War of the Five Generals
     
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  13. RokurGepta

    RokurGepta Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Battle Beyond the Stars
     
  14. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I kinda like the Second Galactic Civil War.

    So anyway the EW article says the Resistance is cut off from the Republic so at the very least it seems the New Republic isn't completely dead yet. I expect they'll make a big entrance in Episode IX. Perhaps in a situation similar to Rogue One the Republic leaders after having their capital destroyed and the Resistance on the verge of defeat after TLJ are considering surrendering to the First Order. You could even explain Leia's absence by saying she's off trying to convince them not to and then just as the battle is looking lost for the Resistance have the New Republic fleet arrive to turn the tide. And in a perfect world have them commanded by Admiral Lando Calrissian! :p
     
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  15. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    Landi doesn't really seem like the Admiral type...

    But Admiral Wedge Antilles....
     
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  16. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I could see something along the lines of most of that, except for this part. I can't see the Resistance considering surrender to the First Order unless their whole makeup and attitude changes a lot during the course of TLJ (which would be disappointing, but I don't expect it anyway).
     
  17. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    You called? :D
     
  18. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    You both have a piece of it, but what is actually going to happen is Lando Calrissian will lead a coalition of smugglers and independent worlds like Ryloth into an Alliance with General Antilles and the remains of the Republic Fleet. Lando's people provide intel, sabotage, and the smuggling of raw material General Antilles forces need to repair and re-arm, while at the same time bolstering the Resistance's forces. This New Alliance is setting a trap for the First Orders forces, specifically Snoke, looking to capture or kill him, knowing the loss of their Supreme Leader will be a serious blow to the FO and show the galaxy that their is hope, and a chance to defeat the FO.
     
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  19. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    I still like the idea of Lando being the Resistance's secret money man, dealing and conning his way accress the galaxy to fund the Resistance, but I would not be disappointed with Lando leading a fleet of low-life scum to come to the aid of his friends.
     
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  20. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I worded that poorly. I meant the New Republic is considering surrendering because the Resistance is on the verge of defeat after TLJ.
     
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  21. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ah, OK, that does seem more likely.
     
  22. ObidioJuan

    ObidioJuan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think the "set-up" in TFA of the Three factions of the GFFA is one of the areas that require a lot of head-scratching to understand for the casual movie goer.

    The FO replaces the Rebel Alliance of the OT as they are the "rogue" band of rebel fighters crusading against the "op-pressingly good" New Republic.

    The New Republic replaced the Evil Galactic Empire of the OT as they are the de-facto government that rules in the GFFA.

    So then what is the Resistance?, who do they represent?, what are they fighting for and who are they fighting against?. And who do they Resist?

    At a glance it would seem they are fighting against the FO to be the main opposition against the New Republic. But we never see the NR fight against the FO nor the Resistance.

    Anyway, as the NR was completely destroyed in TFA. All you have is two warring bands (the FO and Resistance) both vying for power as the main force in the GFFA. But since neither the FO nor the Resistance control many systems it's a battle of equals. Neither has the upper hand and neither controls the Galaxy.

    Who are the "common folk" supporting?,

    I can understand what the FO is trying to do. I.E. Bring back the Imperial militarized control, and Snoke becomes the Second Galactic Emperor.

    But what is the Resistance goal?,

    Would be interesting to see who takes control first of the systems.

    But overall this is the one area that is the most nonsensical of the ST, as there was no real setup and it's hard to understand the three way fight in TFA.
     
  23. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    "With the support of the Republic, General Leia Organa leads a brave Resistance." It's set up in the opening crawl that the Resistance is an organization being supported by the Republic to oppose the First Order. They aren't looking to replace the New Republic. They're defending it. Also Johnson indicated in the EW article that the Republic is not completely wiped out but the Resistance is cut off from them throughout TLJ.
     
  24. Bunai

    Bunai Jedi Knight star 2

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    It seems like JJ just wanted an opposing side story.
    I would like if book writers on the new trilogy can pad something out.
     
  25. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Read the opening crawl of TFA, and all your questions shall be answered.