Comics A/V The Force Awakens #1-6

That was a terrible move by LFL. I love the Kanan series, but what they did to Shatterpoint was just cruel for EU fans. If they came clean right from the start in regards to the novel I'd have no complaints.

 

You might argue that it wasn't done on purpose, that the other didn't even know of the background established in Shatterpoint, but I really have a hard time believing that. I can't help but feeling troll'd.

 

Well the news is in, there doing a 5 issue adaptation starting in June. Considering the two issue adaptions that Marvel does for its movies, this is a welcomed news. Looking forward to it.

 

Can we change the title now?
Point Given?

 

What was the issue? I never read either.

 

Long story made short: in Shatterpoint, Depa Billaba falls to the dark side during a mission on Haruun Kal, becomes crazy in the process, and does horrible things. Windu then tracks her down, and she ends up falling into a comatose state. They bring her back to the Temple. She never wakes up, but they still keep her; if she did wake up, however, she'd have to face justice for crimes against civilization.

In the Kanan comic series, we learn that Depa had been in a comatose state, that something terrible had happened, and we see the council wondering whether they can welcome her back or not. Of course, we all thought of Shatterpoint, but it turned out to be something else entirely.

 

Ah, I had heard some references to that, but glad I haven't bought much Marvel Star Wars comics (and Kanan is one of the better nuEU characters). That was one of the things that annoyed me most in new works like TCW and onwards- there are references to older stuff, showing they're not completely unaware of old EU, but then they use it in a completely different way or just run over it anyway or something. I wish they would at least just make a clear break from the past rather than act for a moment like it still matters, then turns out it doesn't.

I wonder how they'll divide up the movie into five issues. I almost wonder if it'll be like Kingdom Hearts and they'll advertise "Read inside for hints about Episode VIII!" and maybe they'll sneak in a background character that will turn out to be important later. Let's see, issue 1 will probably end with Poe and Finn crashing on Jakku, issue 2 with Han and Chewie arriving on the Falcon, 3 with Rey being captured, 4 with Han, Chewbacca and Finn heading for Starkiller Base maybe? I'm just guessing.

 

Yeah so this is the mini-series after Anakin & Obi-Wan, interesting choice. I'm surprised Marvel is doing the five issue adaptation and not cramming into their usual 2 issue MCU adaptation but it'll let it breathe a bit. Hoping since Wendig is writing it he adds a scene with Temmin "Snap" Wexley and if Mister Bones is still around (please say yes).

 

Not to mention her squad, Rostu Squad, seems to be named after Nick Rostu, a character from Shatterpoint.

 

...so you prefer they'd be recanonized by getting massacred in a flashback? Setting aside how that's kind of a bizarre thing to want in the first place, the same thing happening with Tholme in Dark Disciple did not go over well, as I recall.

Also that scene supposedly isn't even the Jedi massacre, but that kind of pales next to the larger point.

 

I'd be okay if the TFA comic showed Kylo Ren massacre prominent EU Jedi because it'd be a giant bizarrely metatextual statement about canon. What statement? No idea but it'd be fascinating to see.

 

Wonder what Sinrebirth would do?

 

I would love that.

 

Personally, I'm still of the opinion that so far, the only thing Kanan conflicts with in regards to Shatterpoint is the post-story expectation of what would happen to Depa. One posits charges of war crimes, while the other shows rehabilitation. How we go from one to the other is quite the jump, but as these things go...it's not unfathomable. Of course there are still some issues to go and things could change significantly, but it's my suspicion at least, that the comic's conflict with Grievous on Haruun Kal will lead to the state of affairs as we know them come Shatterpoint's narrative.

Naive optimist that I am...

 

MCU films get two-issue adaptations? Yeesh. There's no point in even trying to fit any story in there. Just make it forty-four pages of explosions and other eyeball porn.

I'd like to see the Knights of Ren massacre five Jedi whose faces are actually just the covers of the Sword of the Jedi trilogy and the Untitled Paul S. Kemp duology.

Ya know, that would actually be a pretty great Perry Bible Fellowship strip...

Huh, I could have sworn I remembered Tholme appearing in a TCW episode. I must have been thinking of Ky Narec.

 

Tbh, at the end of every Kanan issue I've read so far, one of the first things I think is "Yes, Shatterpoint's still on." lol

 

Yeah Deepa's just been in a lot of comas.

 

You know what'd he do - find a fix!

 

I think that the comic adaptation for TFU 2 (and TFU 1 as well? can't remember so I'm not quite sure) had an interesting concept. Instead of literally adapting the same story as in the movie, they retold it through the eyes of Boba Fett, thus making the comic more interesting and complementary to the VG. Otherwise, movie adaptations are usually redundant imo.

 

...millions of bigoted Star Wars fans cried out in terror...

 

Yes, awful move. They have disgruntled a handful of Star Wars nerds who will continue to buy the comics regardless.

Not sure how they'll stay fiscally viable after this PR disaster.

Also, I too am of the opinion that Shatterpoint has not been contradicted...yet.

Newsflash circa 2014...it's no longer canon.

 

How though?

 

That's his business - I've no idea how Sinny's head works! He even de-fanged Apocalypse after all.

 

It was TFU II! Followed the same route as Shadows of the Empire, having the game, comic, and novel all telling different and complementary stories. I agree that a straight-up comic adaptation is pretty redundant. I've never been interested in any of the comic adaptations of the movies, save for the original six Marvel issues for how wacky they can be. A novelization can add insight and character depth that a four-, five-, or even six-issue comic adaptation really can't.

The best comic adaptations of the SW films are their Manga versions. With high page-counts and super intense art, they do fantastic jobs of capturing key scenes, actions, and emotions from the movies. Something that would be hurried through in one panel in a Dark Horse or Marvel adaptation gets like two entire pages to itself. The Mangas are just awesome.

 

I agree. All Kanan added is that Depa fought Grievous on Haruun Kal and lost 90% of her clone troopers. She was their for months before Mace Winds arrived and all we know from Shatterpoint is that she was sent there to train resistance forces. Those aren't mutually exclusive. So she originally came with a Clone force, which Jedi on similar missions often are, and over the course of her time fighting most died. Maybe the rest scattered as she fell to the Dark Side. During those early conflicts she fought with Grievous, but by the time Mace arrived he had left. Everything can continue normally through Shatterpoint, until she enters a coma. Then we have the discrepancy between punishing her or rehabilitating her. Even that can be changed over the course of the war. She wakes up near the end when the situation hado worsened. When they discuss punishment they're only six months into the war. The Jedifference have forgiveno people for similar crimes before if they are seen to be redeemed. So they changed their minds, I doubt the public was aware of what she did and I could see Palpatine approving it because he could use it against the Jedi later.

I don't tend to try to reconcile the canons, but I feel like in this case Shatterpoint has been referenced enough (I doubt that was accidentall) to make such explanations worthwhile.