A/V THE FORCE AWAKENS - The Official Movie Discussion Thread

No thanks, really. I think that Lego games can certainly be fun, but canon game should be "serious," and characters shouldn't look like blocks with cylindrical heads in a "serious" story.

 

The people being interviewed in the article never say it's going to be canon. They say "We tell the story through the sort of Lego viewpoint." They also say they'll cover "some pretty significant events that happen before the film," but they're clear it's from that "Lego viewpoint" and not 100% true.

 

Why do a canon game need to be "serious"? The movies are often not that serious after all

 

I don't mean serious like "no jokes." What I mean is... harder to explain than I thought.

 

i dont have your powers of observation or knowledge for the obscure, but i feel the same way about the film.

 

*Sigh* All right, then.
A canon Lego® story is the best thing ever. Episode VIII should be made of Legos®.
Everything that isn't made of Legos® should be de-canonized right away.

 

But... no one being interviewed in that article said it was canon!

There's nothing to be worried about!

 

Embrace the foggy window, Lelal. We can take general outlines from the Lego stuff (if applicable) without having to worry about the exact details of it--especially if it's stuff that will never get depicted anywhere else.

 

This is a simple thought of mine that evolved into a crazy conspiracy theory:

Wouldn't it have made sense that Finn fought Phasma in the Battle of Takodana?

- As much as I love TR8-TR, it's odd that a redshirt has a significant battle with one of our heroes (the buff guy that Indy always fights at least stands out from the other goons)
- There is antagonism well set up between them in previous scenes (Chekhov's gun)
- Making him the trooper from the book is just a retcon response to fans loving him

What could have happened?

- Gwendoline Christie was ill that day (Phasma is nowhere in the battle!)
- GC does not fight that well (i've seen GOT scenes, but it seems they use a stunt)
- They couldn't find a proper stunt double?
- Rewrite to spare her character?, although it would have been easy not to kill the character

Probably nothing though, just over-reading Phasma's mkt protagonism and trying to build some logic into it further than "flashy, it sells"

 

I've never seen anything to suggest she was ever considered for that fight. Honestly if she'd gone down like TR-8R that would have been even more of a let down than the trash compactor.

 

If/when we next see her, will she be calling herself 'Plasma', considering what happened to SKB?

 

I think they erred in pushing her so hard when they "realised" she was going to be the ensemble darkhorse, though. It set false expectations. She looks awesome but is otherwise something of non-entity in the film, itself.

And then TR-8R was the dark horse, anyway.

You can't predict this stuff.

(EDIT: Well, I guess JJ predicted that Poe was going to go down wayyy too well with the audience to kill off. And thank goodness for that)

I'm glad she's getting a more substantial piece of the pie next time around, though, of course.

 

I wouldn't say that JJ predicted it as much as he was just charmed by Oscar personally in the same way the rest of us were through the film itself.

 

I don't really see the difference but okay.

 

Had there been confirmation through official releases that Ben's last name is Solo?

Could be Ben Organa...

 

There's been no outright confirmation, AFAIK. It's an assumption following on from Leia and Han having been married.

Maybe he's Ben Amidala-Skywalker.

 

Still no official confirmation, as far as I know. (Which is why one of the most common activities on Wookieepedia these days is reverting the edits of people who keep adding "Ben Solo" instead of just "Ben" to the Kylo Ren article.)

Even though Han and Leia were married, nothing tells us he couldn't have his mother's surname. In Belgium, you can have the surname of your father, that of your mother, or both.

 

Plus "Organa" is a far more famous/respected name in the galaxy than "Solo" would be. Leia, Bail, and Breha all being prominent leaders in their day(s).

I kind of liked the "random awesome Stormtrooper" honestly. They've been a joke in pop culture for so long that seeing them portrayed a bit more competently here was refreshing. And for once, there was actual tension when they encountered one of our main heroes.

Sort of how Lucas, by his own admission, had no clue that Boba Fett would end up being as popular as he became. It happens sometimes.

 

I don't think they're all that comparable. Not least because Phasma has so far come across as a bungled attempt to manufacture the "Boba Fett Effect".

 

From what I understand, don't quite me on this, she was supposed to be a much smaller role even still. But when they cast Gwendoline Christie, they beefed it up a little. And supposedly the plan was always to make her a bigger presence in Episode VIII, again from what I've heard.

Heck initially she was nothing more than a rejected piece of concept art for Kylo Ren's look, that they still thought looked cool. So they invented a new character so that they could use it. And yeah, the Boba Fett situation is rather comparable, down to "comedic exits" from the film.

 

A case of 'If you know exactly what to say to a Dianoga, they can be very obliging'?