Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jango_Fettish, Feb 10, 2007.
I didn't find the game to be particularly glitchy in any memorable way. Then again, YMMV.
The Force Unleashed sold 8.35 million copies; with four different platforms, each topping the one million mark. Seven million in the first year, or so.
In 6 months, give or take: FU2 sold 1,990,000 copies.
To be fair:
the sequel was not made for the PS2, which cost them at least million sales.
Wonder if they regret not making it available on the older platform?
They probably got quite a few sales on the older platform, yeah, since lots of people still have PS2s and haven't ever upgraded. With few new games (at least, that are any good, and not just lame party games and stuff) it probably garnered quite a bit of interest there. Though, admittedly, most would probably have a 360, even if they haven't shelled out for a PS3.
Which upsets me somewhat, as my PS3 really has had so little use, as there's just barely any decent games come out on it (and when there's a 360 option, I usually get that, as I much prefer the 360 dashboard for buying DLC). It's a shame Sony put so much effort into PS2 model remakes and PSP games and so on that the PS3 seems to be really underdeveloped in terms of content.
As I've harped before, I prefer to interpret TFU as Vader throwing the fight to test Rhett clone whatever against Palpatine without betraying Palpatine himself. An opportunity to gauge the abilities of both his apprentice and master? Yes please.
(The DS ending, if we take it seriously, would -- going by the above -- represent Vader misjudging his ability to defeat Rhett with a handicap. He still puts up a bloody good showing.)
I'm certain that's not what was intended -- at least when TFU I was being made -- but it contradicts none of the canon material, so it's valid. Yay.
As for TFU II, well, yeah. I think it's rather implicit that Vader's playing with the guy in an attempt to become the Empire's very own trojan horse.
In conclusion: though Rhett obviously has the talent to surpass Vader (though I'm hoping this is because of mad alchemical processes and splicing rather than 'just because, lol'), I'm not convinced he actually has yet in either game. And, as a Vader fanboy, I prefer my way of looking at things.
And, hell, even if someone did come out and explicitly state that Rhett's first victory was legit. I'd just chalk it up to a Ganner moment. Or a fluke.
(But, really, revealing that Rhett never surpassed Vader in games I and II would be the only way of preventing yet another final Vader confrontation in a hypothetical game III from being horribly anticlimatic. "Oh, great, it's the guy who can't beat me again!")
Frankly, in a hypothetical third game, I wouldn't even want yet another fight with Vader. I'd far prefer Rhett v Dark Apprentice, with you taking revenge on the DA for the massacre on Dantooine, but both dying in the process, cue "I'm pregnant!" in the ending, goodbye TFU, hello ANH.
Or perhaps the Emperor was actively messing with Vader via the Force during the TFU1 battle. Sidious might have been hoping that Rhett could survive to serve as a suitable replacement apprentice. Furthermore, we'd see this scenario play out again in ROTJ when to the Emperor's delight, Vader loses to Luke.
For all TFUII's faults, the final fight was simply great, in my opinion. The Vader fight in TFU was okay, but because it was only one in about 5 lightsaber fights in the game, it didn't stand out as much as it should. The fight with Vader in the second game, on the other hand, is so incredibly cinematic, and very memorable for me personally. The fight with Leia in the DLC was also very fun; funny that they improved the lightsaber fighting system so much, only to have just one actual fight in the game, though I'm glad they didn't stick a bunch of unnecessary Jedi into the game.
What I'm getting at is, if the third game sees the light of day, I'm not holding my breath, or even really wanting, another Vader fight, as I'm not sure it could top the fight in the second game, and as pointed out, it could be anti-climactic. The fight with your clone should be satisfactory, plus there's also Maris Brood still out there as a lingering plot thread, and you'd probably have Boba Fett after you, so there are enough potential boss fights without throwing you back in the ring with Vader.
I would like to see in a third game, you finally "catch up" with Vader, only for the Dark Apprentice to finally "reveal" himself. Which then would culminate in Rhett essentially having to "face himself." With neither of them surviving, that is.
Nope...the first KotOR still sold more, albeit barely, at 2.01 rather than 1.99 worldwide. And that's not counting PC sales for either games.
Whoops, you are right. Confused one of the games.
But hot damn, those were only console sales for KotOR! Well, that gives me back my faith a little. Still depressing that FU2 would rival KotOR 1, regardless of platform.
RPGs have always been more of a specialist interest compared to hack and slash action games.
A better comparison would be to compare TFU sales with something like Devil May Cry, and KOTOR with Mass Effect.
Though, admittedly, even those won't be perfect, since inevitably more recent blockbusters tend to have higher sales for the same sort of reason as how a crappy Hollywood film may make more money than a major success story back in the 80s, simply due to population increases, more people owning games consoles, video games being less expensive from a relation inflationary perspective, etc.
DMC is probably a good benchmark though, since one of it's sequels did more or less coincide with TFU.
When I made the switch from 360 to PS3, I was VERY happy. After playing through a few specific games that I also had for the 360 and a couple of new releases, my system has been mostly idle except for burning movies to the hard drive. So we are in similar boats, I think. For all the PS3's capabilities, there REALLY isn't a WIDE enough selection of games that I like to play. Maybe I had false hopes of reviving my love for Tekken and SOCOM, but should have known better. Because when I got bored with those originally, I switched to xbox just to play KotOR. In the end, my gaming has been little more than a vicious cycle of wasted money.
And I still completely agree. And in addition, I'd like it to be CERTAIN that Vader faced a cloned/spliced/upgraded version of Rhett that he personally modified.
THIS. And perhaps I should have read your whole post before I started quoting you. Instead of repeating the stuff about Rhett2.0 and Vader's hand in it.
If not THAT, then I'd at least like to see Vader destroy them both. And say to heck with Rhett and his faulty DNA... he needs a new subject. A better candidate.
EXACTLY Sx3! At the end, after the Rebel base on Dantooine's been destroyed, both Starkiller and the Dark Apprentice are dead, you can cut from the Rebellion wondering who can give them hope, to Vader wondering aloud where he'll find a better apprentice candidate...
Then cut to a shot of Luke silouhetted against the double sunset, with the famous Binary Sunset music playing.
Then roll credits.
KOTA: What hope have we now?
JUNO: I'm pregnant with a half-clone!
KOTA: Fantastic! In just ten years, Baby Starkiller will be old enough to defeat Vader!
Cue TFU4 trailer.
At least it isn't twins.
More than likely, it'd be quadruplets instead.
Right. There should be nothing left of Dantooine, except for the planet with it's still smoldering surface and Darth Vader.
A little campy, so it must be included!!
Wonderful as the idea of seeing Luke in the closing shot of the ending is, we all know what that'd result in: Starkiller's ghost flashing up at the very last moment before the credits roll, screaming: "WHO?! I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS GUY! JUNO!? WHERE'S JUNO!!!! I WANT TO SEE JUNO!!!!!"
Pfft, that ending would be awesome!
It would be funnier if Starkiller's ghost saw Luke and started crying over how he was supposed to be Vader's favorite son... Then he starts going emo over Juno.
Random question about the graphic novel: Does anyone know what species Xasha is? I thought she was human until I looked closer and saw the spots on her face and back.
Most likely intended to be a Human/Theelin hybrid.
sorry to bring this topic back from the grave, but i found something that a lot of you guys will love... it's a mod for TFU2. here's the link. what it basically does is making available in TFU2 all TFU customes, INCLUDING A PLAYABLE DARTH VADER!!! with all the attack animations from the first level of TFU. another treak is that Darth Maul can play with his saber staff, using the attack animations of the Proxy boss battle. Kota too. you can also play with only one saber like in TFU.
i'm gonna make a new playthrough with this bad boy
oh btw you need the unpatched version of the game for this to work!