The Fourth Installment of the 2005 Jedi Draft-Jedi Revelations

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  1. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
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    I thank you all, judges.

    Good match, GMK, I thought you may have me there. Glad it came around the way it did.

    Madine out
  2. ghost-jedi Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    May 20, 2004
    star 2
  3. bburditt Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Mar 8, 2004
    star 5
    Here are the lists, I think they are mostly right, but if you pick up someone you can't, I will let you know.

    Also, you can trade now, and do free-agents up until I post Round 2, which should be sometime tonight.



    Tatoine Free Agent List:

    A'Sharad Hett
    Aayla Secura
    Adi Gallia
    Agen Kolar
    Ajunta Pall
    Aldaric Brandl
    Andur Sunrider
    Anoon Bondara
    Atris
    Aurra Sing
    Bant
    Barriss Offee
    Brakiss
    Bultar Swan
    Callista
    Cin Drallig
    Coleman Trebor
    Dace Diath
    Daeshara'cor
    Dark Woman
    Darth Bandon
    Desaan
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Eeth Koth
    Empatojayos Brand
    Even Piell
    Fable Astin
    Foul Moudama
    Ganner Rhysode
    Hethrir
    Irek Ismaren
    Jaden Korr
    Jerec
    Jocasta Nu
    Jolee
    Jorus C'Baoth
    Juhani
    Kar Vastor
    Kenth Hamner
    Kiel Charny
    Kit Fisto
    Komari Vosa
    Lowbacca
    Luminara Unduli
    Lumiya
    Marka Ragnos
    Neeja Halcyon
    Oppo Rancisis
    Pablo-Jill
    Qu Rahn
    Quinlan Vos
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Sharad Hett
    Siri Tachi
    Sora Bulq
    Stass Allie
    Tamith Kai
    Tenel Ka
    Tavion
    Tholme
    Tott Donetta
    Tr?a Saa
    Tulak Hord
    Tyvokka
    Vergere
    Valenthyne Farfalla
    Vima-Da-Boda
    Vima Sunrider
    Voolvif Monn
    Vrook
    Whie
    Yaddle
    Yarael Poof
    Ylenic It'kla
    Zett Jukasa
    Zekk
    Zez-Kai Ell



    Alderaan Free Agent List:

    A'Sharad Hett
    Adi Gallia
    Agen Kolar
    Ajunta Pall
    Aldaric Brandl
    Andur Sunrider
    Anoon Bondara
    Atris
    Aurra Sing
    Bant
    Barriss Offee
    Brakiss
    Bultar Swan
    Callista
    Cay Qel-Droma
    Cin Drallig
    Dace Diath
    Daeshara'cor
    Dark Woman
    Darth Bandon
    Darth Bane
    Desaan
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Eeth Koth
    Empatojayos Brand
    Even Piell
    Fable Astin
    Foul Moudama
    Ganner Rhysode
    Hethrir
    Irek Ismaren
    Jaden Korr
    Jerec
    Jolee
    Jorus C'Baoth
    Juhani
    Kavar
    Kenth Hamner
    Kiel Charny
    Kit Fisto
    Komari Vosa
    Lord Hoth
    Luminara Unduli
    Marka Ragnos
    Naga Sadow
    Neeja Halcyon
    Oppo Rancisis
    Onimi
    Pablo-Jill
    Qu Rahn
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Sharad Hett
    Siri Tachi
    Stass Allie
    Tahiri Viela
    Tamith Kai
    Tenel Ka
    Tavion
    Tholme
    Tott Donetta
    Tr?a Saa
    Tulak Hord
    Tyvokka
    Vergere
    Valenthyne Farfalla
    Vima-Da-Boda
    Vima Sunrider
    Visas Marr
    Voolvif Monn
    Vrook
    Xanatos
    Whie
    Ylenic It'kla
    Zett Jukasa
    Zekk
    Zez-Kai Ell



    Naboo Free Agent List:

    A'Sharad Hett
    Aayla Secura
    Adi Gallia
    Agen Kolar
    Ajunta Pall
    Aldaric Brandl
    Andur Sunrider
    Anoon Bondara
    Atris
    Aurra Sing
    Bant
    Barriss Offee
    Brakiss
    Bultar Swan
    Callista
    Cay Qel-Droma
    Coleman Trebor
    Dace Diath
    Daeshara'cor
    Dark Woman
    Darth Bandon
    Darth Nihilus
    Desaan
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Empatojayos Brand
    Even Piell
    Fable Astin
    Foul Moudama
    Ganner Rhysode
    Hethrir
    Irek Ismaren
    Jaden Korr
    Jerec
    Jocasta Nu
    Jolee
    Jorus C'Baoth
    Juhani
    Kar Vastor
    Kavar
    Kenth Hamner
    Kiel Charny
    Komari Vosa
    Lord Hoth
    Lowbacca
    Luminara Unduli
    Neeja Halcyon
    Oppo Rancisis
    Onimi
    Pablo-Jill
    Qu Rahn
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Shaak Ti
    Sharad Hett
    Siri Tachi
    Stass Allie
    Tahiri Viela
    Tamith Kai
    Tenel Ka
    Tavion
    Tott Donetta
    Tr?a Saa
    Tyvokka
    Vergere
    Valenthyne Farfalla
    Vima-Da-Boda
    Vima Sunrider
    Voolvif Monn
    Vrook
    Xanatos
    Whie
    Yaddle
    Yarael Poof
    Ylenic It'kla
    Zett Jukasa
    Zekk
    Zez-Kai Ell



    Mustafar Free Agent List:

    A'Sharad Hett
    Aayla Secura
    Adi Gallia
    Agen Kolar
    Ajunta Pall
    Aldaric Brandl
    Andur Sunrider
    Anoon Bondara
    Atris
    Aurra Sing
    Bant
    Barriss Offee
    Brakiss
    Bultar Swan
    Callista
    Cin Drallig
    Coleman Trebor
    Dace Diath
    Daeshara'cor
    Dark Woman
    Desaan
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Eeth Koth
    Empatojayos Brand
    Even Piell
    Fable Astin
    Foul Moudama
    Ganner Rhysode
    Hethrir
    Irek Ismaren
    Jaden Korr
    Jerec
    Jocasta Nu
    Jolee
    Juhani
    Kenth Hamner
    Kiel Charny
    Kit Fisto
    Komari Vosa
    Lowbacca
    Luminara Unduli
    Neeja Halcyon
    Oppo Ranc
    />/>/>
  4. KenKenobi Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jul 11, 2002
    star 6
    Do you even know what "cohesion" means?
  5. CountCuckoo Jedi Padawan

    Member Since:
    May 30, 2005
    star 4
    I know what Caucasian means.


  6. bburditt Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Mar 8, 2004
    star 5
    D'you get a little silver, d'you get a little gold? What did you bring me my dear friend to keep me from the Gallows Pole.

    I couldn't get no silver, I couldn't get no gold, you know that we're TOO DAMN POOR, to keep me from the Gallows Pole.
  7. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    I am dropping Onimi and taking

    CORRAN HORN

    The Brooklyn Jedi: Reloaded
    1. Luke Skywalker
    2. Nomi Sunrider
    3. Count Dooku
    4. Corran Horn
    5. Kyp Durron
    6. Thon


    Madine out
  8. bburditt Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Mar 8, 2004
    star 5
    Sorry Madine, he is on the same team as Spaceman's.

    My bad. Damnit.
  9. Darth-Horax Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Aug 22, 2001
    star 6
    Gee Ken, you seem a little disappointed there.
  10. KenKenobi Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jul 11, 2002
    star 6
    No, I'm just wondering where in all the Hells of Barab that ghost thinks Onimi would work with Kyp Durron and Luke. Not to mention there's Dooku in there too.

    Because if that means good cohesion, then I really need to overlook my way of judging. Maybe Vergere really is better than Yoda, or something. :)
  11. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    Mighty Mustafar Judges

    Please explain how Onimi was a hole in my team, as one of you put it.

    Last game, he beat Plo Koon, and one of the reasons I lost the match and the championship.

    So if he was so powerful as to defeat Plo Koon, and therefore that level of Jedi, where does he top out?

    I think if he is a hole - is he a hole on my team or just in general to anyone's team?

    So he is not a 4th rounder, but a 6th?

    I think we may all benefit from this knowledge.

    thanks

    Madine out
  12. bburditt Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Mar 8, 2004
    star 5
    Madine, Onimi is a hole to all teams.
  13. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    Jaden Korr

    I will take Jaden Korr then

    I was all hopped up on Corran...
    got a tip on Jaden Korr, lets try him out....

    The Brooklyn Jedi: Reloaded
    1. Luke Skywalker
    2. Nomi Sunrider
    3. Count Dooku
    4. Jaden Korr
    5. Kyp Durron
    6. Thon


    Madine out

    Madine out
  14. Darth-Horax Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Aug 22, 2001
    star 6
    Onimi > Luke, didn't you know...except when he's facing anybody other than Plo Koon.
  15. KenKenobi Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jul 11, 2002
    star 6
    Madine, what I noted Onimi on in your team evaluation is that he's very weak in skill and that he is adds more detriment to cohesiveness along with Dooku.

    And for the record, Yoda's fecal matter could defeat Plo Koon. And that would have been better cohesively.
  16. Darth-Horax Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Aug 22, 2001
    star 6
    Yoda's fecal matter could defeat Plo Koon

    PPOR. ;)
  17. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    Nice.



    So Jaden Korr is better for Cohesion, better for skill, and better for power than Onimi.

    the reason I grabbed Onimi, well, Nyax too, was my cohesion was not going to be that strong with Dooku there anyway, so I was going for another strong singles fighter.

    Now with Jaden Korr, I will get that strong singles fighter, and better cohesion.

    Madine out
  18. KenKenobi Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jul 11, 2002
    star 6
    I'll post proof for my poop joke when you post proof for your poop joke. :p
  19. Darth-Horax Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Aug 22, 2001
    star 6
    Here's a man who tried:

    [image=http://tracyyuen.com/wp-content/poop.jpg]
  20. TheForgottenJedi Jedi Padawan

    Member Since:
    Apr 10, 2004
    star 4
    Alright, starting out with a victory, good game Horax. :)
  21. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    I agree with Ken that my cohesion of my team with Onimi and Dooku is...challenged.

    But I think what Ghost was saying is that despite all the bad cohesion I have, it is still better than an all dark-side team where cohesion simply cannot exist.

    Madine out
  22. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    With Jaden Korr now in the mix, sure, I have 5 Jedi who are solid cohesion-wise, and sure I have Dooku - but don't forget, Dooku for most of his life was a Jedi. He was corrupted to Sidioius' ways the same way Anakin was - the promise for something more.

    I am not saying Dooku is 100% perfect for cohesion on the team, but he is not as bad as other dark siders I may have put there instead, given his long experience as a Jedi.


    We only saw from bburditt on the question I posted earlier. I think we can all learn something about the judges and their pov on this Onimi thing, if they all post their ideas on the topic.


    Madine out

  23. GenMadine Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    but he is powerful enough to beat Plo Koon...

    Who is great for cohesion on many teams, and a powerful PT Era Jedi Master.

    Uh huh.

    Madine out

  24. Zonama_Mekot Jedi Padawan

    Member Since:
    Jan 25, 2004
    star 4
    Because if that means good cohesion, then I really need to overlook my way of judging. Maybe Vergere really is better than Yoda, or something.

    I still think Vergere could be a legit 6th rounder. Sure her skill is pretty doo-doo, but theres people like Thon who we've never even seen with a lightsaber who always gets picked. The place she really could help is she is quite strong in the force, and has a VERY deep knowledge of it. I'd say she is wise on the level of the top guys in the draft. Her broad knowledge base is due to her time in the Old Republic, time with the Yuuzhan Vong, and finally her time discussing the Force with Jacen. She may be crazy, but either way she knows things about the force that few, if any, others have any idea of. I think she could work in the 6th spot on team with Jacen, or even on a team with Onimi, to act as a go between from him to the "Infidels" and perhaps take away some of terrible cohesion he brings to any team.
  25. KenKenobi Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jul 11, 2002
    star 6
    A couple of things, here...

    Madine: But I think what Ghost was saying is that despite all the bad cohesion I have, it is still better than an all dark-side team where cohesion simply cannot exist.

    Cohesion "simply cannot exist" on an all Dark Side team? What about Exar/Ulic, hm? The Jedi Civil War with Malak/Bandon at their head? The Brotherhood of Darkness (who, despite even Kaan and Bane's rumblings, still all fought together, and Kaan eventually reconciled with Bane on Dxun)? Sidious saving AnaVader on Mustafar?

    Cohesion can definitely work on a Dark Side team, especially when they have single-minded goals like destroying the Jedi.

    [A]nd sure I have Dooku - but don't forget, Dooku for most of his life was a Jedi. He was corrupted to Sidioius' ways the same way Anakin was - the promise for something more.

    Dooku was not corrupted by Sidious' ways. He voluntarily left the Order because he was growing tired of it, and disagreed with it and the Council. He trained with Sidious because he saw that as a way to, as a Sith, correct the corruption he saw in the Jedi and the Republic. He thought he was the Chosen One himself.

    but [Onimi] is powerful enough to beat Plo Koon...

    Who is great for cohesion on many teams, and a powerful PT Era Jedi Master.


    That's very irrelevant. Luke is powerful enough to beat Sidious, who is a great leader and cohesive on many Dark Side teams. You can't compare individuals' abilities and try and relate that to cohesion.

    Mekot: Very nice. And she does show some skill in Rogue Planet, too.
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