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TV Discussion The Future of Star Wars on TV

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by ThatWanFromStewjon, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Kanan is more or less Kyle Katarn (sort of)
     
  2. Sixes

    Sixes Jedi Master star 2

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  3. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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    Here around 40:15 Pablo said the next animated series might not be announced until next Star Wars Celebration in 2019.
     
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  4. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    He was completely dancing around the question and trying to think of ways to say something without saying anything at all so I'm not sure we should really make much of the celebration comment. I think what we should take out of it is that it isn't Pablo's place to announce anything about it.

    If we don't get an announcement until 2019 at celebration it is almost certainly a post ROTJ (and probably post Jakku) show as it would be premiering around the same time the ST is finishing up.

    It's possible come celebration 2019 though they are planning a big splash of television project announcements. That will be about the same time Disney opens up their new streaming service so we might get a animation announcement as well as a live action announcement.
     
  5. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Yeah, I am almost certain this is post-RoTJ now.

    This has so much potential; lost stories of Luke Skywalker, birth and later fall of Ben Solo, origins of Snoke and the Knights of Ren.
     
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  6. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Looks like we are going to wait awhile after Rebels ends to get more star wars on TV. Would be nice if TCW was finished (or just some arcs) between that time.

    I wonder if they will take the Last Jedi route with Luke by setting it pre-Academy days. Or instead we could get again a master and apprentice relationship with Luke teaching his 1st student. Could be a new character or a younger Ben Solo.
     
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  7. redxavier

    redxavier Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd be ok with a long wait if it means a quality show at the end. If they continue with animated, I would much prefer either a return to a traditional animation style (eg, anime) or a more detailed game FMV cinematic style (eg, Old Republic cinematics) over staying with the rather plain Rebels style.

    I guess what I'm eager to learn now (or as soon as possible) is what they have planned. It's nice to have something to look forward to.
     
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  8. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That's never going to happen. It's waaaay too expensive. TCW was too expensive once Lucas stopped paying for it out of his own pocket, and while that was a very detailed animation style, it was still much simpler (cheaper) than the TOR cinematics.
     
  9. redxavier

    redxavier Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, that's probably true, it's possibly more likely to happen if they were looking at just a feature-length movie rather than a 20-episode series run but for many hours, it's prohibitively expensive.
     
  10. TetsuAero

    TetsuAero Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Since they have opted to not do movies of the remaining TCW episodes, i also doubt they will do any with TOR style cinematics :/
     
  11. redxavier

    redxavier Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Why do you say that? There's no correlation between those two aspects at all.
     
  12. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    We waited a year for season 6 we can wait a year for this show
     
  13. TetsuAero

    TetsuAero Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    They would both be animated? And they have similar fanbases?
     
  14. redxavier

    redxavier Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Your post implies that because another TCW movie isn't happening, that puts all other animated movies off as well. But not making a movie from the remaining stories for TCW, a show that ended a while ago and doesn't need any more story told for it, would have nothing to do with whether they make an animated movie set elsewhere, regardless of what style animation it would use.
     
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  15. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yes. While Lucasfilm Animation are making Rebels, it would be difficult to return to doing TCW. On the other hand, hiring another animation studio to make a new movie length 2D/3D cgi animation for Lucasfilm would be quite easy. Polygon Pictures for example, they did the animation for Disney's Tron: Uprising series and their latest stuff (Blame! and Godzilla: Monster Planet) look very good.
     
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  16. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Agreed.

    Same reason why live-action Star Wars: Underworld never happened - WAY too expensive. It is all about production costs.
     
  17. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Nothing is WAY too expensive for Disney though. Disney will need more than just children's cartoons and the movies to sell their streaming service to Star Wars fans. They will need an expensive live action series and possibly also animation aimed at older children and adults.
     
  18. Jedi Master Scorpio

    Jedi Master Scorpio Star Wars Television star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Disney has more than enough money to fund such a venture. I would imagine this conversation has taken place more than a few times.
     
  19. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    No they do not. While yes they could fund a 5 million dollar per episode show they would be wasting a boat load of money. It's just not going to happen IMO
     
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  20. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Why would creating exclusive content for their new service be a waste of money? I made it clear earlier that I'm not convinced about the Disney streaming thing being enticing enough for many younger adults without children to subscribe to because of how big online piracy is with TV series, but Disney absolutely have to give some reason for the respectable Star Wars fans to subscribe to it otherwise they just won't bother, most have the DVDs or blurays of the movies after all.
     
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  21. True Sith

    True Sith Jedi Master star 4

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    I could see Disney trying the same thing with a live action Star Wars show that's happening with Star Trek: Discovery now. Show the first episode or two on mainstream channels to get people hooked, and then have the rest of the show exclusively on the streaming service.
     
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  22. episodenone

    episodenone Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    4 or 5 of the Most Expensive Movies to Produce were made by Disney. No Star Wars movie falls into the Top 10 most expensive. TCW was made despite the limitations budgetary concerns were. It's a false argument to say GL's ability to finance TCW is bigger than Disney's to finance anything and that they are not making more because of that.

    It's P&L - they are a public company and have investors to report to. If $5M per episode nets them a profit somewhere along the Star Wars ecosystem - whether its subscribers, merchandise, or what have you - they will do it.

    Everything pre-Disney was predicated on staff numbers and production costs. LFL simply did not have the depth of resources to have 2 or 3 shows + movies + everything else. Disney on the other hand is able to finance several movies at once. GL may be rich -- but the Market Capitalization of Disney is exponentially more.
     
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  23. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't think anyone has said that Disney can't afford to make an animated show with the same budget as TCW. Just that they are unwilling to spend that amount of money on an animated show.
     
  24. Outsourced

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    I disagree. We've seen how much they're willing to put out with something like their Netflix marvel shows, and the stakes are way higher for their own streaming service.
     
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  25. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    You may be right that it might change once their own streaming service is up, but I think it's safe to say that they're not willing to spend that much money on a show right now (or at least up until now), since they did cancel TCW, and Rebels obviously has a lower budget.
    I also think it's important to seperate live action shows like Daredevil from animated shows. Animated is still looked upon by most as "for kids", unlike live action, so live action generally has a higher budget.