I think our definition of selling is just very different. And I do not believe an "unaltered product" truly exists outside a . . . no I cannot say that here. Selling is not writing OPs. That is a good tool for it, but by far not the only thing. Selling is seduction. It is not a noble, honorable thing, it is making things sexy. And we all know alcohol and dim light help there. Same with games. Do not add awesome features, leave away what you think is in your way. Introduce it later. Or cut it. But YOU CAN SELL ANYTHING. At a price, of course. At a price. In the case of Twilight I really think Sirak nailed it. Take the name away and youÂ´ll have a game. It would be so much more cruel, dark and tough than those cheesy novels but thatÂ´s what players make out of it. If you do games . . . with players . . . pure vision can not be accomplished anyway. You are simply not doing it alone. You hand over control to them. And all of that argument assumes we are cut off newbies. Because if you wanna do Twilight, you tell me how to register and I let loose my lil Sister and her friends at you! There you have 200 players. I said selling, not selling to the players of your dreams So I still think, you can sell anything. [hr] And that part is something not even I knew about Fin and SotS. Please, full length interview, Sirak! Looking forward to that one, really.