Miracle Max in The Princess Bride is a magician according to the spoken dialogue of the film itself. His cure -- the Miracle Pill, which brings back "mostly dead" persons -- is magical in nature, not medical science. The life-sucking Machine used by Count Rogan is also quite obviously fantastic in nature, not scientifically plausible in the least. It's widely known that PB is a fairy tale satire, not merely a swashbuckling adventure with an evil prince and a pirate and an unhappy princess, but also having that all-important element of enchantment. All of your protests to the contrary cannot erase this simple and decisive fact. You assert that you took offense at what you termed my "attitude of 'It's not a fantasy because I say it's not a fantasy'". Why you continue to ignore my thrice-repeated exhortions to other members to come in and support your claim, as evidence of my willingness to be flexible on this point, remains a mystery to me. I have never said or implied that somehow my opinion were all that mattered. Yet despite my calls for others to show their agreement with your position, two other members have now come forward in support of my position, one of them citing a popular website, which mentions the movie's "science fiction elements". It appears that at this point it might be you, Kimball_Kinnison, who are danger of being perceived as harboring the attitude of "It's a fantasy because I say it's a fantasy", when all evidence and testimony of opinion is to the contrary. The difference between the IP time warp and the FG ring of power is this: A "time warp" is a science fiction concept, introduced into fictive literature at some point in the 19th or 20th centuries. It's not a folkloric or fairy tale motif deriving from ancient or medieval times. A ring of power is. It's just that simple.