Lit The Great River / Legends Haven MkII (Was: Should there be new stories in the Legends continuity?)

Is having a different opinion feeling harassed? I have a very hard time believing that the mods would turn their backs if anyone was being treated unfairly. No one is saying all EU fans are like that. Christ I'm an EU fan myself.

 

In a effort to get back on track (somewhat), if (big if) they were going to make new Legends stuff, would people prefer more continuations of the post-Return of the Jedi stuff, like after Crucible, or would the prefer stand-alones from anywhere on the timeline?

 

How about in the JCC? EU authors get called "hacks" and whatnot, quite a lot there. Filmmakers too (Lucas especially) get could things that wouldn't fly if they were directed at novelists, in the Lit section:


http://boards.theforce.net/threads/zomg-discussing-star-wars-in-the-jcc.50004769/page-569


and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there were a few out-and-out insults of EU fans, PT fans, TFA fans, etc there.

 

Good to know.

 

I think you misunderstand. I didn't say that a new Legends novel, set in the Legends universe, with popular Legends characters, would make a lot less than a new canon novel. I said that a novel branded "Legends" that didn't have any ties to the old Legends universe (hence having little, if any, special interest for Legends EU fans) wouldn't sell as well as the same novel if it was branded as canon.

 

I do like the "donation to Force for Change in the name of the EU" idea because it does help out a solid cause and also get their point across. The billboard comes across as mean spirited (a tag that unfortunately seems to be sticking to the Give Us Legends group) and doesn't help anyone. At least when people are blowing money on Star Wars products for themselves, the end result is they get something out of it. Don't think the billboard is gonna get anything done. At least donating that money to an officially Star Wars branded charity works in the way that people actually benefit across the board.

 

Yeah, I don't have any issues with it from a financial standpoint. Is donating to Force for Change better in some universal moral sense? Sure, but as someone else said, Star Wars fans are nothing if not willing to throw money at silly ****. Saying "there are better uses for that money" is a slippery slope, because okay, FfC is better than a billboard, but what about other charities? Is Unicef objectively better than a charity for breast cancer, or AIDS, or whatever the hell? It's just not an argument that can really go anywhere, and usually only serves to justify doing nothing whatsoever.

 

For the record I am pretty sure Sword of the Jedi is releasing based on the fact that that was the only question Christie Golden didn't answer in my interview with her. In entertainment rumors, "I plead the fifth" usually means "yes it's happening"

 

Have to say doing things like putting up a billboard though is much better than going and raiding Del Rey's site. People can actually talk about the books now on there because most of the die hard legends backers have left. I'm sure Lucasfilm is mildly impressed from the billboard as well. If these guys are willing to continue to spend money to put up things such as billboards Lucasfilm is probably a little more likely to throw them a bone eventually.

Dr. Steve Brule as far as calling me out saying that I target EU fans I do admit that I probably mistakingly assumed at times that some of the posters here who were standing up for the facebook groups were some of the ones firing away at Del Rey. As far as this thread though the only thing I have said since the thread was ressurrected a couple days ago was saying what these people needed to do to make anything come of this (in that it is probably going to take years of doing stuff like this to make much of a difference). The only thing I directly said to you was that the Marvel stuff was still doing extremely well when you tried to imply about slacking numbers.

IG_2000 Until Del Rey stops saying 'there are no future plans for legends at this point' I think you can safely assume that Sword of the Jedi isn't happening.

 

Comic con announcement if any.

Sword of the Jedi as a Kindle exclusive. Calling it.

Then after that comes out alongside Thrawn making his Rebela debut the EU can quietly go into the night without any big announcement and maybe more acceptance from diehards.

They'll deny it all they want but it'll happen in some form as long as the endless complaining doesn't cease. I remember Operation Rainfall all too well.

The funny thing is when Nintendo finally gave in and localized the Rainfall titles in America nobody purchased them. Goes to show just how invested these "fans" who just bandwagon on a complaintrain are.

 

I remember those days, and the people involved. The most vitriolic of the bunch ragequitted TFN, and never came back - I'd say that was a 'win' for moderated forums. Who know, Traviss might've come back if she hadn't left Star Wars altogether.

Do I need to state the obvious here?

 

I agree with past me.

 

I'd like to see some more stories in the NJO series era.

 

I'm glad that I still have plenty of EU stories to collect and read.
The EU isn't over for me yet, by a long shot.

 

Well, yeah, that's the punchline to the joke. Even if there isn't a single new Legends story written again, there's a quarter century of material - and that includes comics, video games , TV shows, and RPGs - to dive into. We'll be talking about that material for some time, NEU or no.

Which is to say, Jello, you and Havac need to get back to work on the SWAJ.

 

Yeah, I actually do think that's a decent way to look at it. Is Legends really "unfinished" if one hasn't experienced every single aspect of it? It isn't finished for you, dear reader! Now turn the page into a world of adventure!

 

I want there to be more EU stories, but if it is just going to be SotJ or something else in that terrible, terrible era, then I don't care. Unfortunately, I pretty much completely doubt LFL's ability to pull anything like that off any time soon, since TFA's nearly universally positive reception has almost certainly vindicated the "Legends" business in their eyes, to the point that they may not want to ever go back.