Well, it has become apparent that we need a place to continue the back and forth between Gushers and Bashers. We have sanctuaries for both sides, but neither allow for differing opinions, or direct confrontations. Now before we all engage in "battle", I want you all to keep in mind that this thread is not in any way exempt from the official terms of service. That means you can only debate the points being made, and cannot attack the people making the points. Trust me, I know how fine a line this can be, and I know I am not always great about it myself, but if we can all maintain a decent level of respect for all involved, this thread has the potential to bring both camps closer together. We may change our minds on certain issues, and even if we can't, we can at least gain a better understanding of those issues. Yoda: "A Jedi uses his strength for knowledge and defense, never attack." Let the respectful mayhem begin.