Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.
Attack Of The Green Ectoplasm, I'd imagine...
At least the Two Towers made since within the context of his adaptation. Mostly.
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE KING'S RETURN
Yes, but why. Tell me. I don't want to defend the film. I want to pick your brain. Why did it suck.
Also why do I like using periods in these posts when there is clearly a question. Because I am implementing Beezel's posting style today.
Warner Bros., New Line and MGM issue a combined statement regarding the current issue with the Australian unions
Because it had about thirteen separate ending sequences in the last twenty minutes of the movie. At least four of which I actually stood up for. Also, the movie was uninteresting and I fell asleep, though that was a flaw common to this entire series.
not YOU, wocky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IJG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It didn't make any sense, it was full of long boring scenes that had no legitimate purpose in the film, Legolas's battle antics escalated above the absurd, the big epic battle that was clearly the climax of the whole trilogy ended with some nonsense deus ex machina, the ridiculous repetitive endings. Man I could rant for hours on how bad that film was, but unfortunately I haven't been able to sit through it for years. Or fortunately I haven't had to.
I actually liked ROTK but agree with all those call outs. Part of why my jaw dropped when it won Best Picture.
I'm not sure. I can understand why someone would list those things as negative, but I think the fact that it did all those things is why it was so good. I mean, I'm also factoring the books because it did stick relatively closely to them. The outlandish Legolas stuff and whatnot is because it's....well, fantasy. That stuff is to be expected. But the long dialogue scenes and whatnot, I really really liked that they did that. One of my biggest peeves about films is the pacing, how they always follow this structured form of pacing themselves with dialogue/slow scenes/action scenes. To me, the more drawn out "boring" scenes (they do have to be carefully done still), the more I feel connected to the movie and give a crap about it.
As far as long drawn out boring scenes with no purpose, I was specifically referencing when whats his face the hobbit was singing to the steward of white castle.
To your other ramblings, ROTK was so far from the book that if I hadn't intentionally left out the things that ticked me off in the movie just because they were different for no reason from the book, I would still be writing that last post. And "it's fantasy" is not an excuse. In fact, that's like the worst justification you could use. That's like saying "Oh a huge gaping plot hole? Relax, its fantasy, we'll just throw a swarm of ghosts in and BAM, no one will notice"
I would agree that ROTK is easily the silliest of the three thanks to the ghost army. But to Jackson's defense, he didn't like them as a plot device in the first place.
So Peter Jackson's reaction to a plot device he didn't like was not to remove it entirely, but to instead broaden its impact on the story? This is why I don't think he should be let near movies anymore.
Pippin's song here intercut with the suicide mission is possibly the best scene of the whole film.
On this basis I shall continue to disregard your opinions on movies
RotK is the best of the LotR films and that's considering that all of them are great.
-sj loves kevin spacey
For those interested in the developments in the union standoff, there's a good blog here and lots of useful discussion and links in the comments.
I really hope you never make it anywhere with your film career.
I would much rather discuss the Hobbit than this stupid derailed "discussion" about why ROTK sucked.
I like how Karl Urban is all, "Hey PJ thanks for giving me my career. Now **** you!"
-sj loves kevin spacey
Do you feel like a bigger man now for actively wishing someone ill?
I love all three films, but ultimately I think I like FotR best of all. Everything from the opening through Moria is brilliant. Lothlorien does get a bit slow, but Amon Hed is fantastic.
My only real "gripe" with FotR is the small scale of its climax, but then I remember that it's really not small-scale at all. Too often I forget, having come to take the grandeur of Minas Tirith and Mordor for granted, how awesome those statues on the river were the first time I saw them. Taking the film on its own merits, the finale is perfectly wonderful.
Should I wish that people with ideas I hate rise to power in an industry that usually makes things I enjoy?
I liked this thread better when the drama was about whether or not The Hobbit will ever get made.