Amph The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, The Desolation of Smaug, Battle of the Five Armies

Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Cushing's Admirer Chosen One

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    I didn't really care for either of the Hobbit films. I don't like the pacing, the way the motion of the camera is handled, the manner of the characters or even the tone of the tale. it seemed amazingly shallow and petty. About the only things I did like were the real animals, the landscapes and Smaug.
  2. Bib Fartuna Jedi Grand Master

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    I'd love to know how much the dragon wrangler was paid...
  3. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    I saw TDoS tonight. I enjoyed it more than Unexpected Journey, seemed like the pacing was faster or the dwarves spent less time in barrels or something.

    Smaug was frightening enough (great VA by Cumberbatch there) and I actually enjoyed the rounds between him and Bilbo. I also liked the Lake-town scenes and Bard himself.

    Tauriel was a badass and I enjoyed her scenes for the most part, although I could have lived without the romantic allusions.

    It's been a very long time since I read the book and I didn't remember what was in it and what wasn't...but I did remember the lack of elves. Legolas had to be there because he's still the prettiest or something I guess.

    And what a spot for an ending. My sons are already making guesses as to how soon in the next film that Smaug will die.
  4. Aytee-Aytee Force Ghost

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    While I agree with a lot of the sentiment (especially the Gandalf vs. Sauron subplot that screams "contractual obligation"), I kind of disagree on Tauriel.

    Despite being a character created solely for the movie (*cough*Brave/Hunger Games marketing cash-grab*cough*), Evangeline Lilly did pretty good in the role and she was easily one of the better parts of the movie. That being said, I kind of wish her involvement would have ended at the barrel escape, and more time had been spent on the main characters.
    Aside from Thorin, all of the dwarves are pretty much forgettable. They're not really "characters", so much as they are "adjectives".
    Fat Dwarf, Grumpy Dwarf, Lovesick Dwarf, Exposition Dwarf, etc.
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  5. Ghost Chosen One

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    They have more individuality in the movies than they do in the book, though.
  6. Cushing's Admirer Chosen One

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    I liked the elderly Dwarf and Kili a bit. To me they were characters and fairly likable but I thought the love triangle thing was lame and rather thought it was too earlier for Legolas.
  7. Ghost Chosen One

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    So, what does everyone think the fates of Tauriel and Radagast will be?

    And who will give the death-blows to
    book spoilers (open)
    Thorin, Fili, Kili, Azog, and Bolg?

    And will more Dwarves, and possibly other characters, die? I could see them changing the fate of the Master of Lake-town too.

    I think Beorn kills Bolg in the book, but even that could be changed. [/spoilers]
  8. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    Well the way TDOS ended

    I could see

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    Legolas killing Bolg
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  9. Aytee-Aytee Force Ghost

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    Radagast survives into LotR. He alerted the eagles of Gandalf's whereabouts in Saruman's tower.
  10. Ghost Chosen One

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    I don't think that will happen, Gandalf has the moth thing going on. And Gandalf is using Radagast's staff in FotR.
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  11. Bib Fartuna Jedi Grand Master

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    Peter Jackson sure damn loves Carrots! ;)
  12. timmoishere Force Ghost

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    The Middle-earth movies are all about healthy eating. We see the characters eating carrots, apples, grapes, tomatoes, roast chicken, bacon, sausage, rabbits, and even LEMBAS BREAD.

    And then of course there's Eowyn's nasty stew.
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  13. Bib Fartuna Jedi Grand Master

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    That looks likes soggy biscuit stew. [face_sick]
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  14. jp-30 Manager Emeritus

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    So, you've encountered soggy biscuit stew?
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  15. TX-20 Force Ghost

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    *rolls dice*

    Soggy Biscuit Stew deals 10 Stomach Cancer damage.
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  16. Sandtrooper92 Jedi Master

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    I have to say the movie doesn't do justice to the book at all. Great for the short attention span generation though

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  17. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    I hope Legolas dies in part III, and there's absolutely no explanation for why he's in the LOTR trilogy. That should keep the fans busy.
  18. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    What?
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  19. Sith-Lord-Gunray Ex-Mod

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  20. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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  21. tom Chosen One

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    i watched this yesterday. i guess i can't decide if it wasn't an adaptation of the hobbit if it would have been an enjoyable movie. but it is an adaptation of the hobbit, a fact that's impossible to ignore, and at that it fails pretty miserably. were there even five minutes worth of scenes that actually happened in the novel? every time legolas or tauriel appeared on the screen i had to fight the urge to audibly groan. smaug was cool, but the entirely unnecessary added sequence of the dwarves escaping from him took so long that i started to nod off. i guess people liked this one because it had more action, but the action in these movies is always the same, to the point where it actually becomes the most boring part.
  22. Sith-Lord-Gunray Ex-Mod

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    I kind of agree. One of the best parts of LOTR is how much dialogue and slow scenes they had. It had purpose. The hobbit ones all want to be TTT nonstop.
  23. jp-30 Manager Emeritus

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    I wonder if there will be a fan edit once the 3rd one is released on DVD, that cuts it down into a single movie that just uses the parts from the novel?
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  24. Rew Force Ghost

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    The Hobbit: The Hobbit Version.
  25. Aytee-Aytee Force Ghost

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    Gandalf only uses Rad's staff for the second half of the film, after he escapes Saruman.
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    So if Radagast is in fact dead...it probably won't happen during The Hobbit series, as Gandalf would know about it.


    EDIT -- Or, while Gandalf was reincarnated as a superior version of himself....Radagast gets reincarnated as the moth.....



    My scenario: Eagles rescue Gandalf from the fortress, he seeks out Radagast, finds that Radagast is weakened and dying, to which Rads passes the baton, literally.
    (presumably just before telling Gandalf that he's got a long lost twin sister and fading away into a ghost)

    Which I'm sure we will see on the "49.5 Hour Blue Ray 6-Movie Saga Edition" special features.
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