Amph The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, The Desolation of Smaug, Battle of the Five Armies

Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    The estate wouldn't be able to stop original stories, since New Line or WB or whatever have to rights to do original stories as long as they don't infringe upon non-Hobbit/LotR works by Tolkien.

    Copyright law is a mess, folks.
  2. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    The Hobbit: 1937 ( and there's no "the" )
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  3. DarthWilliams Force Ghost

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    OK, I've gotta ask: how good are these films? I adored the LOTR films, but shied away from seeing either of the first two Hobbit films because the tone just felt off in the trailers (I know, I know, like judging a book by its cover).
  4. dp4m Chosen One

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    Not.

    There's obviously a good story in there because The Hobbit is a good story, but these are bloated, meandering messes and if you were one of the people who liked LOTR and disliked Jackson's changes (which I was not, btw -- I just liked LOTR) you will hate this even more.
  5. Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus

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    I liked Jackson's theatrical Fellowship. It shows tremendous creativity and audacity. After that, the whole project is progressively mired in post production bloat. And then the Hobbit built all the bloat in from the start.
  6. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    Great movies.
  7. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    DOS is the shortest in the series, but it feels like the longest and most tedious.
  8. Sith-Lord-Gunray Ex-Mod

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    I would describe them as very entertaining and beautiful movies that share 50% in common with the book. When you do hit a point that is from the book you'll be so pleasantly surprised but the rest you'll be thinking "I don't remember this happening...".
  9. dp4m Chosen One

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    "There's a couple of big surprises. The one thing I'm really looking forward to is seeing the Battle of the Five Armies." - Richard Armitage

    Chances of Smaug showing up as someone theorized?
  10. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    BFA will be shorter according to Armitage

    EE of TDOS will be longer than AUJ
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  11. laurethiel1138 Force Ghost

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    Or maybe he's only talking of Thranduil's megaloceros giganteus laying quite a few Orcs low with his antlers?

    Lauré :)
  12. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    If Smaug is in the final battle, I'm afraid I'll have to pre-kill myself before that scene.
  13. Random Comments Force Ghost

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    If you're referring to the new title of the film, it is in fact The Battle of the Five Armies. Which is ridiculous, frankly.
  14. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I like the first Hobbit flick. A lot. The 2nd is very good but I was personally hoping for a better Smaug. It's not horrible, but Smaug is quite the giant cartoon.
  15. tom Chosen One

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    i loved the first thirty minutes of the first film, and loathed most of the rest of it. the second film was pretty awful and i fell asleep during the endless escape sequence toward the end. i will probably watch the third film for the sake of completion, but if you've avoided them thus far i honestly wouldn't bother with them.
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  16. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Don't listen to tom, he only knows music.
  17. Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost

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    You're obviously drinking battery acid. Smaug is hands-down the best dragon ever committed to film since Dragonslayer. Connery's dragon in Dragonheart would have been ok had that movie not been awful.
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  18. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    See, we agree but to a differant degree. I was hoping for a talking Vermithrax as far as convinicing special effects. But it's closer to Draco than Vermithrax. Vermithrax is still the best dragon on screen despite a few moments where you can tell it's a puppet. I liked Smaug, it was well done, just not well enough.
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  19. Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost

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  20. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    THAT is one of the greatest thrills I have ever had in a theatre. The Smaug that followed to not match it.
  21. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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  22. burrisjedimaster1 Force Ghost

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    This Movie left me wanting the end!:_|
  23. Miana Kenobi Admin Emeritus

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    I'd still say watch them, but don't expect super greatness. I absolutely love them, but I feel it's mostly due to nostalgia, actors I love, and a crap-ton of internet-bred inside jokes.
  24. Bacon164 Force Ghost

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    really? it's also an incomplete, badly rendered FX shot.
  25. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Smaug was great. Problem is, as in the book for me, he's about the only thing really worth seeing. I guess the build-up to him was worth it, but it was a long build. At least the book is short so he appears sooner.

    But he was wonderfully voiced and excellently realised, aside from the inconsistency in his appearance in both Hobbit movies.

    Why they turned him into a Wyvern is beyond me, it looks silly and doesn't differentiate him easily from the Dragon-like creatures the Nazgul ride on in the LOTR.