Amph The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, The Desolation of Smaug, Battle of the Five Armies

Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Oh yeah, I love Jackson's Kong as well, but it needs about an hour judiciously excised from its first two acts. The third act is note perfect.

    My point was and remains, though, that it feels bloated because it was expanded rather unnecessarily from a tight, briskly paced original. That is not at all the case with The Hobbit films, which even at 7-1/2 hours will still barely be able to cram in all the source material.
  2. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Yeah, those last five second really ruin the movie. :p

    And anyway, how can you tell? The angle is level with Kong's bod and I seem to recall seeing rubble 'round him. Will have to check the DVD at some point soon, as I've only seen the movie like six or eight times and don't quite have its fourteen hour running time memorized.
  3. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    They really needed to edit/completely cut out the scenes on the boat when they were getting to Skull Island. A bullet-time typewriting scene? Seriously? Once they get where they need to go, it becomes first-rate entertainment.
  4. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    I think it needs to be paired down, not entirely deleted. The characterizations are important and without that sequence, Jack and Ann never meet! I will further opine that Jackson made a misstep when he changed Driscoll from a vaguely misogynistic sailor to a sensitive writer, as it undercuts the Beauty and the Beast angle. But I digress.
  5. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Did you ever see the '76 version with The Dude? Just curious. I never saw it except for a few clips, and I thought the visuals were fairly decent.

    Back on topic, I'm either getting my tickets tonight or tomorrow. One of the downsides of planning a group midnight showing with a bunch of guys is that we keep putting it off [face_frustrated]
  6. Mar17swgirl Chosen One

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    The Empire State Building is 400 metres high and Kong weighed at least several tonnes. My point is there should've been a small crater in the street, a little bit of rubble just doesn't cover the force of the impact. :p
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  7. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Maybe in the Special Edition he plummets into the Earth's core, flooding the streets with tons of boiling lava. Nature's vengeance against man.
  8. Mustafar_66 Force Ghost

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    The extended version of King Kong is much better than the theatrical one. Longer, but the pacing is much better for some weird reason.
  9. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Oh yeah, it's one of my favorite films. Everyone else in the world hates it, but it has an emotional punch that sets it apart from the other two versions (Jackson tried to emulate this in his film but only modestly succeeds) and a photographic verisimilitude that also pegs it as unique in the "trilogy" of Kong films. Rick Baker's performance as Kong is also worth seeing. When I was a kid I thought it was a real gorilla, but that was before I knew apes are quadrupeds with very distinct anatomy from humans. The film is certainly worth checking out. John Barry's score is particularly lovely.
  10. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    There are also ridiculously bulky dinosaurs in the movie, and giant insects that would collapse in on themselves of their own weight, and a weird melange of races from black to Asian to Hispanic to Caucasian among the Pacific Island natives, and an absurdly well-muscled playwright, and oh yes a GIANT GORILLA who falls in love with a blonde woman. This is not exactly the same reality as the one we inhabit. :D
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  11. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Rick Baker?! Holy moly I had no idea! I might have to check this one out.
  12. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Yeah, Carlo Rambaldi gets credit for the Kong suit "with special contributions by Rick Baker", but Rambaldi developed the 50-foot Kong robot that's seen on screen for about three seconds (it's cut around because it looks and moves horribly) while Baker not only developed the suit and the numerous prosthetic masks employed to give Kong different emotions, but he actually plays Kong as the stuntman or mime inside the suit. It's incredibly effective, IMO.
  13. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    Lawrence of Arabia would like to have a word with you. :p

    I have also seen the 76 version of King Kong. My thoughts are significantly less positive than Merlin's (a fact about which it seems we once went three or four rounds about), but I won't go into them.
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  14. jp-30 Manager Emeritus

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    The wetas weren't too much bigger than the real thing.

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  15. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    I liked Lawrence of Arabia quite a bit, but maybe I'm just a stickler for accuracy. I just wish the characters would speak their native language. Regardless, it's most definitely a classic.
  16. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Sure, because "hand-sized" and "human-sized" are virtually the same size, amIright? o_O
  17. Mar17swgirl Chosen One

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    Well, obviously. :p I'm quite aware that a massive amount of artistic license was used, and that it requires a pretty good suspension of belief on the audience's part - my point is that it takes place on Earth and I would like it if the laws of physics were followed at least roughly... :p Besides, a small impact crater would look more dramatic and better on screen, right?
  18. laurethiel1138 Force Ghost

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    So, after a few tweaks here and there, here is what I hope to be the final version of The Twelve Days of Arda:

    On the (first, etc...) twelfth day of Yuletide
    my true love sent to me:
    Twelve Valar watching,
    Eleven Elders speaking,
    Ten flagships sinking,
    Nine Nazgul flying,
    Eight Walkers mourning,
    Seven Dwarf-lords digging,
    Six great swords swinging,
    Five clashing armies,
    Four brave Hobbits,
    Three Elven-kings,
    Two film trilogies,
    and the One Ring precious to me.


    Cheers,
    Lauré :)
  19. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Yes, right, absolutely. I'll have to re-visit the scene, though, to be sure this wasn't done. Surely there were effects technicians and production assistants suggesting just such a thing as the film was being made. One wonders why Jackson would have avoided it, if indeed he did. As I recall the angle is level with Kong so we can't really see whether there's a crater or not.
  20. Everton Chosen One

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    Brilliant, Lauré. =D=
  21. darthcaedus1138 Force Ghost

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  22. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Brilliant.:eek:

    I found Bombadil to be... a bit... unnerving. I read the Simarillion recently partly hoping to hear his true backstory, and thought it was strange he never showed up.

    Now I sort of want to read LOTR again to catch all the Bombadil references....
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  23. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    How dare you misspell Tolkien in you signature. :p
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  24. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    That was probably the first time I have enjoyed something LOTR related in decades.
  25. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    The error has been remedied...:p
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