The Hobbit

Discussion in 'Star Wars And Film Music' started by General Kenobi, Dec 18, 2007.

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  1. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    So no one is answering this in the Amph thread:

    I got the deluxe version of the score CD, and it contains some extra tracks at the end of the second disc.

    Dreaming of Bag End
    A Very Respectable Hobbit
    Erebor
    The Dwarf Lords
    The Edge of the Wild

    Anyone know where they go in the film order of the score? I'd like to integrate into film order in my playlists...
  2. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Got the regular soundtrack myself and like listening to it a lot.
  3. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I love it. I find it fits right in with the LOTR scores. Loving the Lonely Mountain theme and the other Dwarvish theme.
  4. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Both versions of The Lonely Mountain theme are great
  5. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Well, the theme is all through the score. Not just the songs where they sing it.
  6. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    I meant the songs
  7. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Where is that quote about songs, themes, tracks and cues? :p
  8. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    I tried to identify these while watching the movie a second time, and, as would be expected, they're a bit choppy. I believe "Erebor" is located somewhere in "My Dear Frodo" in the actual film, toward the first half (before the Arkenstone part about halfway through that song). I want to say Dwarf Lords plays somewhere in "My Dear Frodo" as well, again in the first half, but sometimes parts of it play when a scene is centered on Thorin. "A Very Respectable Hobbit" appears throughout the film, but you'd probably be fine putting it after "Old Friends" or somewhere in the general vicinity of the Bag End scenes. Part of "Dreaming of Bag End" plays during that "You don't have a home" scene between Bilbo and the Dwarves, between the songs "Brass Buttons" and "Out of the Frying Pan". I'm pretty sure "Edge of the Wild" is at the end of the film with the little bird.

    Someone else paying attention feel free to critique that, because my memory's a little fuzzy. Sometimes the songs on the track are dead-on with the film, sometimes they're all chopped up.
  9. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I don't remember ever hearing the bagpipes from Erebor in the film...
  10. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    I don't remember them either, but I recall the general theme being played and it sounded more dramatic (IIRC) than what we have in "My Dear Frodo." My guess is (and I need to see the film again to be sure) that they used the second half of the Erebor theme during the introduction of Erebor (minus bagpipes), so about a quarter of the way through "My Dear Frodo."
  11. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Maybe. In the meantime, I have unchecked it in my playlists, because I really do not like the sound of bagpipes in Middle Earth. Sounds too much like Titanic.
  12. Darth_Martus Jedi Grand Master

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    The bonus sings are concert arrangements and not actually heard in the film itself. There's some thematic material found in the film but I think those tracks will make more sense summer 2014.
  13. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Well I have unchecked the Erebor track, as I really dislike the bagpipes for Middle Earth music.
  14. Corellian_Outrider Admin FF | Art Curator | Oceania RSA | CR of NSW

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    That pretty much fits too.. 'Erebor' and 'The Dwarf Lords' should be included within 'My Dear Frodo'. However, 'Edge of the Wild' comes after 'The White Council', it is where the company leaves Imladris, the Mithrandir and Galadriel moment, brief enemy 'tracking' moment and then leads into 'Over Hill'. There was even a comment to Bilbo (when he looks back to Rivendell) to keep up as they were on the edge of the wild which is probably where the track got it's name from.
  15. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I still say, there are no bagpipes anywhere in that film. The Erebor track as it is, is not used.
  16. Thrawn1786 Force Ghost

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    I'm so glad I bought the deluxe version of the soundtrack. I actually bought it strictly for the "Blunt the Knives" song- one of my favorite parts of the book, and the fact it was included in the film made me squee out loud in the theatre. But all around, it's a great score, and well worth the extra money for the bonus tracks.
  17. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    It is a great score, I agree. I do, however, skip the two singing tracks. I just never really care about source music on score CDs.
  18. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I keep meaning to ask this, but it is just me or is it weird that Shore uses the Ringwraith theme when Thorin stands up and walks down the fallen tree to confront Azog? I guess it fits tonally, but it just seems like the wrong theme in the wrong place.
  19. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    It sounded like it. They were probably just looking for a badass song to stick in there.

    And I agree it didn't fit. They should have used bagpipes.
  20. Slowpokeking Force Ghost

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    So they are going to tell us how did Saruman corrupt? I guess it's similar to Dooku?
  21. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    This isn't a thread for discussing the movie.

    And no, Saruman's turn isn't anything like Dooku's.
  22. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    No way, I loathe the bagpipes for Middle Earth. I would say the choral thing was awesome, just felt like the wrong theme.
  23. Fishmanlee Jedi Grand Master

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    That is actually a Bodhran, and its an Instrument previously associated with the Shire, which makes sense in its use here, as this track is a expansion of the "Bilbo's Adventure" motif (there is also a bit of bagpipes or bodhran earlier within the score, in the shire cues.).
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  24. Fishmanlee Jedi Grand Master

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    Correction, its not a bodhran, the bodhran is a percussion instrument, however it is the "Bilbo's Adventure" motif.
  25. Bushy162 Jedi Knight

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    Howard Shore's LotR score is simply the most epic music in cinema history. But John Williams' SW score is 1000 times better musically and in just about every other respect.
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