Amph The Hunger Games - best-selling trilogy, in production for a movie

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  1. Miana Kenobi Costuming & Props Mod - Retired Admin

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    Got my midnight ticket!!
  2. DarthLowBudget Force Ghost

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    I think that's the overall satirical point being made at the heart of Battle Royale. Its primary purpose is social critique. Probably slightly more honest about the way the world works, too.
  3. MasterDillon Jedi Master

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    Saw the trailer and it looks kinda cool.
  4. Souderwan Force Ghost

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    Dude. Can we be best friends? This was precisely how I felt.

    Snow is the only consistent bright spot throughout the entire trilogy to me. I also love that rose garden scene. I suspect it was improved by me visualizing Donald Sutherland saying the lines. Regardless, I loved how well-drawn he was. Unfortunately, that served only to highlight how poorly-drawn Coin was. I know we were supposed to see her as some sort of "just-as-bad-as-Snow-if-not-worse" character, but I never felt that way about her. Even at the end. The result was when Katniss killed her, I felt like it was entirely possible that it was an unjustified killing. This is really what ruined the trilogy for me. I felt like she just got manipulated into killing Coin (hence Snow's reaction to the murder) as opposed to accomplishing some greater good.

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    I don't know what I thought of Coin's death, to be honest. By that point I think almost everyone's motivations and feelings were so badly confused (by the author) it was hard to find a line that really made sense. The only person who seemed to know their own mind, though, of all the characters, Collins and even me as reader, was Snow. He saw clearly in that moment the chaos that replaces a dictatorship and was pleased about it. Only, Collins seemed to think that this twisted society could somehow be completely fixed up by Coin's assassination. Everything after it is so happy ever after. I found that very false. For me, Snow's unspoken point was that Panem was so damaged it couldn't possibly sustain itself without tyranny - and that the revolution was motivated only by the need to get in on the action. He saw it all along. And if not tyranny, then only chaos to come. I think that's why Snow laughed at Coin's death. He saw factions moving behind factions. Worse to come than his own Hunger Games. Worse than Coin's inevitable Hunger Games. Only... Collins didn't. Her character had a better idea than she did! She toyed with the idea of Panem drifting into another dark era with Coin, even had her characters pay it lip service, but decided not to go there. After such a terrible tale, I don't think the story could make believable a happy-ish ending, but Collins was desperate to give it one. So desperate she broke off after Coin's death and tacked one on. How would I have ended it? With Coin (a better drawn Coin) coming to and staying in power.... the threat of what might come in her premiership hanging over Panem as we leave it forever. That would at least have given Katniss' unease with everything in Panem some credibility, and perhaps encouraged me as a reader to - if not like - understand her at the end.

    Up until I saw the trailer for the film of the first book, in my head Snow resembled Terence Stamp. Sutherland is adequate, though.
  6. Souderwan Force Ghost

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    Honestly, thought this was where she (Collins) was going with the trilogy all along. I thought everything was building to this particular realization by Katniss. I was expecting an ending something along the lines of: 1) Coin dies/is murdered, 2) Plutarch makes Katniss a figurehead ruler while he manages the merging of old and new beauracracies, and 3) Katniss grows up and realizes that Snow's brutality was all that was keeping Panem from tearing itself apart. Even when Snow's laughing at the end, I was still thinking that this outcome was possible. Then the whole damned book just jumped the proverbial shark.
  7. Rew Force Ghost

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    So the premiere is going on right now. Anyone following it?
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  9. Rew Force Ghost

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    I had a couple friends out there for it--which was my main interest in it.

    But the video feed wasn't working for me anyway, so oh well.
  10. Darth Morella Force Ghost

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    Judging by the last several posts, not reading the third book might be a good idea. :p

    If I could get my hands onto it, I would but:

    1) If the book's as bad as everyone describes it, I'm not willing to shell the 7 or 8 bucks for a Kindle version
    2) I would lend it from the library but there's a waiting list, and the stupid library apparently only owns two copies
    3) Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the upcoming movie only covers the first book, in that case, there's no hurry and I'll get to Mockinjay sooner or later.

  11. Eeth-my-Koth Chosen One

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    1) If the book's as bad as everyone describes it, I'm not willing to shell the 7 or 8 bucks for a Kindle version
    Save your money.

    2) I would lend it from the library but there's a waiting list, and the stupid library apparently only owns two copies.
    Put your name on the list. If you read Catching Fire you can't not read this one now.

    3) Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the upcoming movie only covers the first book, in that case, there's no hurry and I'll get to Mockinjay sooner or later.
    Correct. No rush. Wait the six months for your free library copy.
  12. nostalgia Jedi Master

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    There's also a free PDF of the book out there via google. I downloaded all three of the books, and read them off of my iPod over the course of five days. I finished Mockingjay a couple days ago, and I've never been so dissatisfied with a story's end. I can't imagine stopping at the end of book one, though. I've got to say, the ending made me cry. I never cry about books or movies, but Prim's death, and the scene where Katniss launches into a nervous breakdown over seeing the cat totally got to me. I was also pretty pissed about the lack of reaction for Finnick's death, and the lack of closure between Gale and Prim. I wasn't exactly a Gale fan, but c'mon.
  13. Darth Morella Force Ghost

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    Yeah, I'll wait for the library copy, I have some other stuff to read in the meantime. Thanks for the spoilers though.
  14. dp4m Chosen One

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    Not that I pay TERRIBLY much attention to the pre-box office stuff, but I did happen to glance today that tracking for the film has this trending for an opening LARGER than Twilight films...
  15. nostalgia Jedi Master

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    I thought I'd done an okay job at masking any major details or spoilers. Sorry..?
  16. Rox Administrator Emeritus

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    At the theater I run I have 4 sold out midnight shows already. Plus I have a few rentals that booked it at 8pm the night before through the distributor. That's just under 2000 tickets just for 6 shows. By Thursday I fully expect to have at least 10 midnight shows sold out easily. This movie is projecting bigger than Twilight. It's going to be a busy weekend at work.
  17. Darth Morella Force Ghost

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    You did. It was my fault :p

  18. Valyn Force Ghost

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    The Hunger Games was good. Catching Fire was okay. Mockingjay outright sucked.
  19. nostalgia Jedi Master

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    Consider it mental preparation then! :p
  20. Eeth-my-Koth Chosen One

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    Trailer for Catching Fire already looks better than the book version. Philip Seymour Hoffman makes everything better.
  21. Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus

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    There's a lot of story to cover in part 2. The first one was under 2 1/2 hours, but still seemed long.
  22. Lord Revan Jedi Master

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    The trailer looks legit. PSH is a great bad guy. I hope he and Sutherland are used correctly. Could be a good one.
  23. NYCitygurl NSWFF Manager

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    Links? [face_batting]

    I'm looking forward to it. The first movie just hit Netflix instant :D
  24. Eeth-my-Koth Chosen One

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