PT The immense continuity issue with Grievous's strength

Genuine question for CTC: (I have this unfortunate habit of asking questions that make me look like i'm being an ***, trust me I'm not) do you find the ROTS duel with Count Dooku unrealistic with 2 against one, as you can only block one saber (sword) at a time?

for the record as a sword enthusiast (I think I've mentioned this in other threads) lightsaber combat threads are my favourite and love hearing peoples opinions on them.

 

(?!) well, I suppose which ever way you look at it, killing someone is never going to be done in a 'nice' way. But in regards to Dooku, he was a Sith and a generally powerful one at that. Bit different from throwing droids around. I.e, he too uses the force and wields a lightsabre.

 

Kit Fisto was described as one of the most skilled/powerful duelists in the Order, so it's not really a surprise he could hold his own against Grievous
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ROTS butchered that up pretty badly didn't they?

 

Where was Fisto described as that? In the EU?

 

yes

and in the TCW show,

he held his own quite well against Grievous

 

Hey, at least Kit Fisto was able to perform a simple block... the same can't be said for the others.

Anyways, it seems a little inconsistant that Obi-Wan prolonged the fight, when all he needed to do was use the Force. In the Clone Wars, it wasn't the same. Grievous was such an overwhelming opponent that the other Jedi could barely focus on blocking his strikes, let alone using the Force. I was a little disappointed to see his arms get chopped off so soon in the movie, but I guess it's because they wanted to make the fight seem more realistic.

 

I find most movie fights to be unrealistic.

 

Hey, at least Kit Fisto was able to perform a simple block... the same can't be said for the others.
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true but he he left himself wide open for an attack which ended up getting him killed

but I suppose that's true for Palps, many many times does he leave himself open, butthat's another topic


Edit: CTC: you have a point

 

Fisto in TCW and EU was when he was elaborated on further AFTER ROTS then. So in the film he was just another Jedi. The audience was unaware he was supposed to be adept at sabre duels. So clearly they couldn't have 'butchered' the idea.

 

I'll say this for the Dooku fights, in both he manages to incapacitate one or the other rather quickly so that he is able to concentrate on one opponent.

 

JCuk: I'm not up on my EU, so I've no idea if Kit Fisto being a magnificent fighter was known before ROTS was out or not

CTC: that's why I liked the Dooku fights, and probably why Grievous did an ok job, as he was taught by Dooku himself

 

I like the Maul fights the best in the PT.

Park sells it well

 

That's not it. Real fights are not cinematic. Someone mentioned Samari before, Samari fights were usually over within the first few strikes. They weren't epic battles, they were trained to kill quickly.

Real fighting doesn't look like the movies

 

This is what you posted. How am I supposed to interpret that?

 

CTC: is correct real sword fights lasted seconds.

Jcuk: interpret that anyway you want, I don't care

it was an offbeat comment,

ie, in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter

 

Did you ever see how the Samurai used to test the sharpness of their new swords CTC? It was, well, pretty brutal! (Nothing to do with the thread but thought I'd ask seeing as though they were mentioned)

 

They would test them on bodies of criminals, fulfilling the demand for bodies was a lucrative business in medieval Japan

 

Yeah straight from the shoulder, across the torso (through the rib cage) and then out. Always been fascinated with Feudal Japan. Shoguns/ Samurai/ Ninja. Quality.

 

He was elaborated on in the EU a lot before ROTS and TCW, as seen in the micro-series, Republic comics, ROTS novel, etc. Many people familiar with the EU would have known about him being a Council member and a strong Jedi. Being a fan-favourite also works in his favour.

 

Hands up I was unaware of this.

 

The only problem is we never see the Jedi do anything like that in the films, they probably don't teach how or even have the ability to just crush someone with the force. Now the Sith might, Vader does crush his medic droids.

 

No. -Darth Boba

 

When the microseries introduced Grievous, it was trying to establish him as a major threat for the then-upcoming ROTS film. By the time TCW came out, Grievous was already an established character.

 

What? Quit reverse trolling me!