CT The Jabba Rescue- exciting, ridiculous, or just too long?

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  1. JEDI-RISING Force Ghost

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    over the years I began to feel it had nothing to do with the real story that was going on with the Empire, Vader and Luke. IDK really. It's exciting, and picking up from TESB they had to show Han's rescue.
  2. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    What, because he liked the cartoon?
  3. darth_mccartney Force Ghost

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    Exactly! The Clone Wars is great! :)

    So why would you weep for the future of fandom, eh fuzzbox?!
  4. Darth_Nub Saga, Classic Trilogy and Film Music Manager

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    Back on topic, people. Thanks
  5. Granger Jedi Grand Master

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    The Jabba rescue was and is my favorite part of the movie.
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  6. solo77 Force Ghost

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    It's the first act of a three act play, so personally I think it's fine (I'd even like it to be longer - Luke in the cave and the sandstorm being in there)
  7. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Exactly. The whole Hoth sequence took up the first fifteen minutes of the film, before the Empire found out where they were and came gunning for them.
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  8. Doop Jedi Grand Master

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    Here too. Is the best part of ROTJ.
  9. AndyLGR Jedi Grand Master

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    I really enjoyed this part of the film, and it always reminded me of an extended James Bond style beginning as it doesn't involve the main story of the movie. So it was a nice departure from the rest of the films structures.
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  10. ezekiel22x Chosen One

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    It feels like a made for TV special to me, in the same vein as the Ewok movies except lacking the charm. I do find it a bit tedious. Even the action is kind of wonky given that Luke reminds me of a little kid swinging for homers with his wiffle bat saber.
  11. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Well, he's only had short period of time to use a Lightsaber. He hasn't had the years that the Jedi before him had. So that would actually make sense that he doesn't look as natural as he could.
  12. solo77 Force Ghost

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    Comparing anything to the Ewoks movie(s) instantly makes said argument null and void :D
  13. Darth Scourge Force Ghost

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  14. miasma Jedi Grand Master

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    My perspective on it has changed as I got older.

    As a kid, I loved it. Actually, I thought it was really scary, but that's why I loved it. I remember being in theater, and being genuinely frightened for R2 & C3PO as they went through that massive door into that forboding place, filled with all sorts of unsavory creatures. And I felt equally scared when Leia was sneaking around as the guards slept (of course, I didn't know it was Leia at the time, but I was still scared. My mother knew it was Leia by the way she walked, but anyway, I digress....) Watching Luke fight the Rancor was another frightening moment. And then the whole sail barge sequence was great fun.

    As I got older, though, obviously the scariness of the scene has worn off. Now I just see some pretty stiff puppets, some actors lumbering around in cumbersome costumes, and a claymation rancor. It's a shame what happens to our imagination as we age. Worse yet, logic kicked in, making the rescue plan just seem overly convoluted. And, the whole thing seems like filler, when the time could be better spent on things that are more vital to the overarching story.

    So I'm not sure how to judge it. As an adult, I don't care for it so much, but Star Wars isn't really MEANT particularly for adults. I loved it as a kid, so, in fairness, it should score pretty highly for that, I guess.
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  15. vinsanity Jedi Grand Master

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    My favourite part of the movie also.
  16. bleed0range Force Ghost

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    I always assumed that Jabba knew about Luke's plan and was playing along at first. He shows up pretty fast after Leia frees Han... and seems to yell Surprise! One creature has 3PO's mouth covered so he cant warn them. Jabba figured out about it somehow and played along but I think he let his pride get to him and didnt fully fear a Jedi. He has seen actual Jedi before so I'm sure he had killed a few before. He was not worried about it and he laughed at Luke's attempt to use a jedi mind trick. That is what ultimately got him killed.
  17. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Jabba didn't know all of Luke's plan. He had either figured it out or Boba clued him in that Bouush was not the real deal. Being that both are bounty hunters and Fett was the best, he probably grew suspicious and decided to do some checking aboard Slave I.
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  18. Darth Bradius Jedi Master

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    Not the biggest fan of the whole Jabba's Palace sequence myself. I like the swashbuckling sail barge stuff near the Pit of Carkoon in essence, but I gotta agree that Luke's swinging that lightsaber around like a baseball bat, in that it never really slices through anyone. Every time Luke hits someone they just fall over. Is the blade set to stun?

    I agree that Luke's plan is convoluted and it ends up seeming like a lame attempt to reintroduce the main characters before wrap the series up. It's unfortunate but the whole opening sets up the silliness that follows throughout the rest of the film with the bad Han/Leia acting and the Ewoks. When I watch ESB and then ROTJ it's just really hard to take ROTJ seriously (aside from the Luke/Vader/Sidious stuff) and this scene has a lot to do with all of that.

    Gah, ROTJ just frustrates me.
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  19. Gamma626 Jedi Master

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    I've always loved it. Well, besides Jedi Rocks and the weird Sarlac Pit.
  20. Kato Sai Jedi Grand Master

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    It was necessary to rescue Han, but the entire Sarlaac sequence may have been overkill. We had already watched Luke defeat the Ranco, did we need him being threatened to be fed to the Pit of Carkoon? Also, if there was no Might Sarlaac scene, Boba Fett would not have been subjected to such a shameful defeat.
  21. Yanksfan Chosen One

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    I almost agree completely with all of this. But while I agree Luke's plan seems pretty nonsensical, I actually *like* the Jabba sequence. For me, the movies goes steeply downhill once they leave Tatooine. But I actually agree with your criticisms about the whole sequence, too. *shrug*
  22. Darth Bradius Jedi Master

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    Kenobi chops off an arm in the Cantina in AHN. Couldn't Luke have cut off at least ONE ARM on the sail barge? C'mon George, you put a blaster in an Ewok's hand, at least make Luke's lightsaber seem like more than a whiffle ball bat.
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  23. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    It was the best that could be done in an era before PG-13.
  24. rways Jedi Padawan

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    it was a bit long and I never liked jedi rocks but overall it was ok
  25. natureboy76 Jedi Grand Master

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