Now, I've noticed a tendency for this forum to get rather silly. Now, I do my best to keep things moving along, but I'm not having things getting silly. The last two threads I posted in got very silly indeed; and that last one about the VMAs was even sillier. Now, nobody likes a good laugh more than I do... except perhaps my wife and some of her friends. Oh yes, and @Rogue_Ten. Hmm. Come to think of it,most people like a good laugh more than I do. But, that's beside the point. Now, let's have a good, clean, healthy discussion about trousers. And no more silly talk.