Lit The JC Lit Reviews Special: LOST TRIBE OF THE SITH: THE COLLECTED STORIES (spoilers)

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  1. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    Lost Tribe of the Sith collects John Jackson Miller's short stories alongside a brand new continuation of the Lost Tribe's story. Now that we're back on the permanent boards, it's time to review!

    Some rules: rate Lost Tribe of the Sith on a scale of 1 to 10, supplementing your rating with a review, if you want to (It's not necessary but is highly encouraged). However, please do not rate or review the book until after you've read the whole thing. Thanks. :)

    Go for it.;)
  2. Esg Jedi Grand Master

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    Only halfway but it is intriguing to see the backstabbing

    8.9 out of 10 so far
  3. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    It's nice to see a return to published short story collections. This is unlike other anthologies in that the stories tell a single collective narrative, but we're still seeing snapshots of various characters over time. The setting is unique, and it's to JJM's great credit that he manages to explore a Sith society, and use Sith characters as protagonists, in such a way that the evil nature of the Sith is maintained while the protagonists remain compelling and sympathetic. I really enjoyed the ability to see an entire society growing over the course of thousands of years, too -- it's a very unique kind of narrative. I found that the stories worked best when they remained focused on that big picture of politics and manipulation and history -- the Korsin and Hilts arcs worked best for me, while the smaller-picture Jelph arc was less intriguing, being as it focused on an element outside the Sith and felt more like a personal vignette that wasn't pushing the bigger story forward. There are ramifications that come off it, but they're not really inherent to the story. JJM's a great author, though, and he's able to bring vivid characters to life, create great plots, and deploy humor. I'm really impressed with what he's managed to do in prose, and I'd love to see more of it. This is definitely a recommended book.

    9/10
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  4. Tim Battershell Force Ghost

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    He's a new author to me, but I was very impressed!

    9/10
  5. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    Average score: 18/2 = 9.00
  6. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Only 2 reviews? What the hell are you lot not doing posting here?

    Oh well, onto business....

    So many other writers could have taken on this project and royally screwed it up, either by making the Sith too vicious and so impossible to read about in any way that is enjoyable, or by being too sympathetic to them. It is testimony then to JJM's skills as a writer that he walks a razor fine line between either pitfall - he makes them vicious enough, with some truly nasty surprise acts, that you don't forget about Sith, yet neither are they so monstrous as to repulse the reader entirely.

    At the same time, these 9 collected stories, have a truly soaring level of ambition - as they cover just over two thousand years, with the snapshots of the Sith at various points. The final tale, Pandemoium, brings it all back together and picks up the various pieces and coalesces them into a far more coherent whole.

    In some respects, it is a shame that their final fate is to be cannon-fodder and cartoon villains in FOTJ - or that's what the majority of comments I've seen suggest.

    Two things I especially liked:
    The link to the Great Hyperspace War and the mention of Harbinger and Saes, that it also made Naga Sadow a more terrifying figure was good too.
    The revelation the Jelph was a Jedi Agent of the Shadow Covenant! Now that's how the way to use continuity! It also continued JJM's revision of the Sith War into a much larger and far more devastating conflict.

    9/10 - It's excellent stuff but they're still the bad guys, can't reward them for that! Now the upcoming Kenobi book however....
  7. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    Average score: 27/3 = 9.00
  8. Manisphere Force Ghost

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    I'm giving this a 9. Great world building, prose and humor. JJM is a real gift to SW.
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  9. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    Average score: 36/4 = 9.00
  10. Plaristes Force Ghost

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    I'll give it a 9 as well.
  11. Greedoliveson Jedi Youngling

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    I hope it's better than the bore fest that was Darth Plaguies
  12. Tim Battershell Force Ghost

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    Look at the consistant scores of 9/10....
  13. Greedoliveson Jedi Youngling

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    Yes, but i remember Plaguies getting good reviews as well. I must admit that i have wanted to read it since i heard about it.
  14. Tim Battershell Force Ghost

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    I only bought it because it was backstory to FotJ, and I don't usually take to authors that I've never read before straight away! Without issuing spoilers, I was most pleasantly surprised both by the quality of the writing (I don't think that it's coincidence that JJM has been trusted to tell some of Obi-Wan's Tatooine story) and with the plotlines. To my mind, it's well worth a gamble!
  15. Greedoliveson Jedi Youngling

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  16. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    It is utterly excellent Greedo - and does not require you to go on and read FOTJ too!

    It's also paperback, there are far worse ways to spend £5-6!
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  17. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    Average score:45/5 = 9.00
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  18. Bib Fartuna Jedi Grand Master

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    Is this book really hard to get, as it always seems to be unavailable on Amazon.com
  19. Zorrixor Chosen One

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    Try checking if there's another version available.

    There was a problem with Amazon not updating their original listing after the book got changed from a regular paperback to one of those flimsier trade paperback things, so your order might still be for the original book which now isn't coming out.
  20. Bib Fartuna Jedi Grand Master

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    Cheers, thanks for the advice. Yeah, it is on my Amazon.com wishlist ... like you said, it might be an outdated version; I will have to check.
  21. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Try this ISBN Bib: 978-0-099-54294-0, though this is the UK version. There were quite a few games played on this one.
  22. Sinrebirth SWC and EUC Forum Moderator

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    Ten. Amazing.
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  23. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    Average score: 55/6 = 9.17
  24. DarthStymi Force Ghost

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    This was a top-notch book I really enjoyed.

    I thought the writing and stories got better as new "chapters" were added. I read each story as it came out, and after I got the book, I went back and re-read those stories (it had been years since I initially ready some), In context of the larger whole, I liked those stories all the more.
    I had some issues with the Knight Errant novel, but I thought the second half of book was really great. You can really see JJM grow as a writer in this series as well. I would not mind more of these type of collected anthologies, as long as they are done well. I think the single vision from one author of how this society progressed really helped, as opposed to the changing authors series that Del Rey has been utilizing for LOTF and FOTJ (that being said, I am among the seemingly few who liked both).

    9.5/10
  25. DarthNefaris Jedi Master

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    That serie of books was just amazing, as it always is with JJM. It shows us a new type of Sith, more human and less psychopath with a new setting that is Kesh and its mythology of the Destructors and the Protectors. It is a masterpiece, it is a well-written background to FOTJ, and it gives us an epic story to deal with. Plus, it links with the EU material such as the Great Hyperspace War, Crosscurrent and the Jedi Covenant (Kotor in fact). I won't spoil about Spiral but it sould be incorporated with the novels as it is the direct sequel. Anyway, every JJM's work is a masterpiece so I gadly recommend this book!

    9,9/10
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