Fanclub *The Knights of Darkness* The Official Sith, Dark Side & Knights of Ren Fan Club Version 3.0

I'm not half as versed in EU literature as many here, but I seem to recall there was a Darth referenced in the Caedus novels (shudders... Caedus...) that adopted that philosophy. That's for next week, though. Let's not derail the good discussion of Sidious.

 

Of course! And not only is it possible, but it actually happened. But if we want to understand why, we must consider what being a Dark-Sider means. In a nutshell. It's all about selfishness. If you follow the ancient Sith rules, you're the centre of your own universe, and anyone and everything else - even the Force itself - is just a tool you can manipulate if you fancy and need it.

For this reason, a true Sith or Dark-Side user knows very well he should take advantage of every situation to elevate their position. When it's time to fight the Jedi to gain more power, one must be relentless in seeking the opportunity. But if there are no enemies, or it's just not time to fight them... why risking your glorious life? We're no heroes, we leave stoicism to Jedi because there's no cause worth fighting for if there is no reward. And this is the reason why after Darth Bane came up with the "Rule Of Two", Sith went under the radar and hadn't been actively using the Force for hundreds of years. And their wisdom served them well, because they knew their opponents were outnumbering them and they were no match for the Army of Light. That wasn't the time to utilise your power and head towards certain and undeserved death. It was time to rest, study, and wait patiently since the glorious day when you can taste your great revenge.

 

I can't agree, though. You stated that, "When it's time to fight the Jedi to gain more power, one must be relentless in seeking the opportunity." Then that means that Bane and every Darth up to and including Tyrannus fell down on the job. They weren't "relentless" at all. As a matter of fact, they shied away from doing it, even going so far as (in Palpatine's case) hiding from the Jedi in their very presence. I'm not about to tell them that, though, because I don't agree with it. I think that Dooku / Tyrannus had the hardest time of it because he had to let known he was a darksider, but he had to keep private to whom he reported. A private publicity, if you will. That was a very difficult line to walk.

 

Well I said that when it's time to fight you have to. But I went on saying that when it's not you don't. Generations of Sith had to wait because there was nothing up for grabs. This is the Great Wisdom of the Dark Side.

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Nothing up for grabs? You make it sound like the Sith take the scraps.

 

They're wise emough to not jeopardise their lives without a reason. Or a chance to win. I see where you come from, but my point is that Sith must decide what's more convenient without any preconceptions or code of honour they're committed to...

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Some Hidalgo tweets:

"[Though the books aren't canon, can we assume that generally what happened in Darth Bane happened in new canon?] The description of Bane's history that's in the Ep I novel is the most solid as that came from George Lucas." (December 26, 2015)

"[We all know that Bane is canon, but: Is his book trilogy canon too or just the character?] Bane came from George, who told Terry Brooks about him for the Ep I novel. The screen version of him is in Clone Wars." (March 29, 2016)

"[The Sith did not form at the same time as the Jedi, at least in Legends?] George's definition was that the Sith were started by a renegade Jedi." (April 6, 2016)

"It was originally 2000 years ago, but in TCW that started to get older." (April 6, 2016)

"It's [in] the Ep I novel. George offered info to Terry Brooks on the Sith backstory." (April 6, 2016)

"Yeah [it's canon], but with my caveat I posted earlier. The timeline grew by the time he got into TCW." (April 6, 2016)

"[Reference] [Darth] Ruin was a name retroactively applied to the unnamed Jedi George described." (April 6, 2016)

"[I thought that Ajunta Pall was the name given to the rogue Jedi retroactively?] I can't recall all that deep, obscure Legends stuff without a cheat-sheet." (April 6, 2016)

"[So that Jedi is canon? And his name is Darth Ruin?] Nah. But there had to be a first. We just don't know the details." (April 6, 2016)

In interviews at the time, Lucas said "thousands of years ago." My guess is that Lucas told Terry Brooks "thousands of years ago" and Brooks interpreted that as "almost two thousand years."

 

I've never felt like Yoda stalemated against Dooku. I thought he was beating him squarely and would have won outright had the fight gone on indefinitely. That would be why Dooku distracted him and ran. And IIRC, Dooku was considered very nearly on-par with Mace Windu - he may have even bested him once or twice.

 

for gold!

 

I keep forgetting we have a Temple here.

 

I like it. Good place to reflect on what's going on in the Galaxy.

 

I do not think I'd be right for the Olympics.

 

Perhaps. I shall think it over. I just started a new Job at the Library and my time is in high demand.

 

I'm an Inquisitor, and my first loyalty is to the Emperor. However I need to practice my dark side powers, and this seems like a good place to start. Can I have a seat in this fanclub?

 

I've been asked to provide a topic of discussion. I love doing that. Can I challenge (or even offend) someone enough to start a real discussion?

By this definition, most Sith are battling more against themselves on a day-to-day basis than against others because they can't bring themselves to humility.

Opinions?