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ST The Knights of Ren

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by PrincessKenobi , Aug 12, 2015.

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  1. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    True, but I can't imagine who else it could be.
     
  2. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    One of the Jedi that were killed?
     
  3. darth_frared

    darth_frared Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    are the knights perhaps an inversion of the arthurian knights of the round table? although i can't see them doing much political discussion and what is supposed to be their holy grail?
     
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  4. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, it hasn't been confirmed yet, so don't question any bodies theory until it's officially confirmed

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  5. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The duel were Kylo lost? The reason why he lost was because he was shaken by killing his father and he got shot by Chewie. His feelings were towards the light from that moment after, which is why he was hitting himself to get adrenaline and anger. Rey was shifted to the dark side when Kylo asked could he show her the ways of the force. It even says it in the book that she was close to killing kylo and wanted to too. But the ground split apart taking her away from the Dark side. It's all there :)

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  6. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Why does he have compassion for Rey though if he fears her?

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  7. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Actually when he says he must not become a Jedi, he means he wants him as a Sith.

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  8. jimmycrank

    jimmycrank Jedi Knight star 4

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    Anakin's lightsaber perhaps?

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  9. creepi0

    creepi0 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Knight of ren remind me of garuda wing cliff bandit from ong bak 2

    Both dress in black and each member have speciality/special weapon
    Both appeared in protagonist vision (in ong bak 2 flashback but TFA im not sure it in the future or the past)with their leader killing somebody in the rainy night surrounded by dead bodies

    But i guess group dress in black and each member have special weapon is pretty much common trope
    my theory is if kylo ren have redemption arc he either fight them all at once or if they loyal to him they might join him . maybe snoke is the original master of the knight of ren so he handpick ben to lead them because he see great potential in him

    sorry if there any spelling or grammar mistake im not native english speaker
     
  10. Miras-Etrin

    Miras-Etrin Jedi Master star 2

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    No, you fool. It´s holy lineage, Anakin´s blood manifested in Rey!
     
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  11. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    ^ "I know whose blood you need." [/jacksparrowvoice]
     
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  12. darth_frared

    darth_frared Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    well, if you're going with the arthurian theme, no, it can't be the sword itself, no?
     
  13. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel Modercreeper Is Always Watching star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    @Little_Boots please stop double, triple, and quadruple posting.
     
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  14. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    No, Vader had to change Palpatine's mind:

    VADER
    What is thy bidding, my master?

    EMPEROR
    There is a great disturbance in
    the Force.

    VADER
    I have felt it.

    EMPEROR
    We have a new enemy - Luke
    Skywalker.

    VADER
    Yes, my master.

    EMPEROR
    He could destroy us.

    VADER
    He's just a boy. Obi-Wan can no
    longer help him.

    EMPEROR
    The Force is strong with him. The
    son of Skywalker must not become a
    Jedi.

    VADER
    If he could be turned, he would
    become a powerful ally.

    EMPEROR
    Yes. Yes. He would be a great
    asset. Can it be done?

    VADER
    He will join us or die, my
    master.


    Palps wanted him killed originally, but Vader wanted Luke for himself, so he pretended that he could turn Luke to help them. Regardless, Vader's last line shows that if Luke can't be turned, he'll be killed anyways.[/quote]
     
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  15. nld3

    nld3 Jedi Master star 2

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    You mean Lucas changed his mind. Because in this scene they are ignoring the Rule of Two. Which wasn't fleshed out by Lucas at this time.
     
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  16. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    The Rule of Two isn't a law of nature. Every Sith lord since Bane has known that their apprentice will eventually kill them....it's the elephant in the room. Both Vader and Palps want Luke for their own purposes, so it's an unspoken detente. Remember when Palpatine had Anakin kill Dooku?

    Besides, Luke wouldn't become a "Sith" unless he killed Vader or Palpatine anyways.
     
  17. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    [/quote]
    You mean Lucas changed his mind. Because in this scene they are ignoring the Rule of Two. Which wasn't fleshed out by Lucas at this time.[/quote]



    Palpatine wanted Luke to kill Vader. He was finished with Vader, he needed a young guy as a Sith by his side. Loads of people aren't aware of the fact that this was the Emperors plans. The same thing happened with Dooku

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  18. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What ya on about?

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  19. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel Modercreeper Is Always Watching star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    When you post multiple times in a row, with no one else posting in between, that's double posting. See all of the posts you made earlier, all in a row? It's against the forum rules. You have to let someone else post before you can post again in the same thread, or you have to edit your last post to add more of what you want to say. One of the other Mods mentioned it to you earlier, in another thread. You only get so many warnings before a senior Mod will temporarily ban you for it. Please desist.
     
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  20. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I was replying to people, it doesn't count. If it mattered so much I'd be banned by now. Believe me.
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  21. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel Modercreeper Is Always Watching star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    It does, because you can reply to multiple people in the same post. Just click reply on all of the posts you want, and then respond to each in one post.
     
  22. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Is this your own personal reasons for being annoyed at it? Because I've never had a problem since I joined

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  23. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel Modercreeper Is Always Watching star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm not annoyed at it, I'm trying to help you. If a senior Mod had noticed, you'd have probably been banned already. It's very frowned upon in the New Films forums. I'm just trying to give you a heads up.
     
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  24. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Okey doke well thanks, won't do it again so

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  25. SkooterNB

    SkooterNB Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    You mean Lucas changed his mind. Because in this scene they are ignoring the Rule of Two. Which wasn't fleshed out by Lucas at this time.[/quote]



    Palpatine wanted Luke to kill Vader. He was finished with Vader, he needed a young guy as a Sith by his side. Loads of people aren't aware of the fact that this was the Emperors plans. The same thing happened with Dooku

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    Also, Vader says in ESB that they can kill Palps and rule as father and son. Both out for having him as an apprentice.
     
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