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ST The Knights of Ren

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by PrincessKenobi , Aug 12, 2015.

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  1. Darth Claire

    Darth Claire Force Ghost star 5

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    EDIT: Wrong thread
     
  2. dlbates

    dlbates Jedi Master star 4

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    Is Mara Jade the Big Bad? Will be the one I check up the most on to make fun of people.
     
  3. Darth Claire

    Darth Claire Force Ghost star 5

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    Well that's what I get for looking at the Ahsoka thread while clicking this one. Though...I can sadly forsee a "Will *insert EU character* be a Knight of Ren?" or worse "Did Plagueis found the Knights of Ren" tread/theory starting sooner or later. You know it'll happen eventually! :p
     
  4. dlbates

    dlbates Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh! You meen the "Snoke Screen"!!!! Is the Knights of Ren code for Knights of Plagueis thread?
     
  5. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I don't think the title meant he was the strongest but he was the least insane.
     
  6. Karl0413

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  7. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Maybe Snoke became Grand Inquisitor after the others death.
     
  8. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I highly doubt Snoke was an inquistor.
     
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  9. Jedispy77

    Jedispy77 Jedi Youngling

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    I wrote this in a previous thread, but it's worth restating here. To understand what Supreme Leader Snoke represents, I think we need to look at certain plot elements that are thematically and consistently present in the latest promotional media. One example is the “medieval” themes and motifs embodied in the First Order designs, specifically in Kylo Ren’s cross-guard light saber. If JJ and Kasdan chose to model their story after the Crusades and/or the quest for the Holy Grail, we can make some assumptions regarding the overall plot theme.

    Essentially, the Crusades represented a military campaign commissioned by Pope Urban in the Middle Ages. The Pope called Catholic soldiers to join the First Crusade in order to guarantee pilgrims access to holy sites in the Holy Land under Muslim control. Based on the plot leaks out there right now, one theory could assume Snoke to be analogous to Pope Urban, leading a “crusade” to guarantee pilgrims access to sites considered holy by those who worship the former “Chosen One”. The fallen and “risen” Darth Vader. The Knights of Ren are analogous to the Knights Templar, on a quest to recover relics of the Sith, or possibly relics associated with the Skywalker family, such as Anakin’s original light saber and to take back the Holy Land. In fact, Kylo Ren’s light saber looks almost exactly like the Cross Pattee sometimes associated with the Knights Templar. The Knights Templar were organized as a monastic order lead by the Grand Master. I think this could be analogous to Kylo Ren. If we think about it in this way, the basic motivation for Snoke and Ren become clear. My guess is Snoke will be leading a crusade to recover the holy land founded on a new religion that will worship the fallen Vader, and the Knights of Ren will be on a quest to recover the grail. The only question that remains for me will be whether the grail is Anakin’s light saber, or what the grail may actually represent in our world, that being the bloodline of Christ. Does that mean Kylo Ren is after the Skywalker bloodline … and to what end?


    If this is the direction the Lucasfilm team decides to take, I would imagine that Snoke would be someone like Pope Urban, best known for initiating the First Crusade and a descendant of a noble family. The Knights of Ren are essentially, the Knights Templar. Advanced shock troops used ahead of battle, but monastic in nature.
     
  10. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe the KoR aren't after Luke to kill him they are looking to worship him. ?? ..?
     
  11. MYMUTHAZ

    MYMUTHAZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    or "finish what you started" is referring to turning Luke?
     
  12. Juken_Rukhan

    Juken_Rukhan Jedi Master star 4

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    is it just me that gets the feeling that Kylo Ren is the only one of the Knights that knows/able to build a lightsaber?
     
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  13. Lord_NoONE

    Lord_NoONE Jedi Master star 5

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    Maybe but I think his skills are incomplete given the quality of the saber he has constructed. But that's pure spec.
     
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  14. Juken_Rukhan

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    That's why I thought he might be the first Knight of Ren to build a lightsaber. Nobody has told him how to build one or helped him fix it. It looks very handmade.
     
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  15. Marsekay

    Marsekay Jedi Master star 1

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    ha, as everyone likes boba fett, is it possible they are mandalorians? out for revenge for the death of jango? its not as if we have had huge aries of boba fetts already though..
    And i like how they remind me of randoms from the Dark souls series of games.
     
  16. nld3

    nld3 Jedi Master star 2

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    So far it seems the Knights of Ren don't all use Sabers.
     
  17. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    no they're definitely trying to kill luke.

    “Together we will destroy the Resistance and the last Jedi.” - kylo ren.
     
  18. StarWarsFreak93

    StarWarsFreak93 Jedi Master star 4

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    I wonder if JJ took inspiration of this from SWTOR? There's a mission line on Dromund Kaas involving a cult following Revan, with even a girl named Ladra worshipping his mask ala Kylo and Vader's helmet. We know JJ watched the new cinematic back in June for the new expansion, so he's obviously aware of the game. It's pretty neat, though, regardless if lifted directly from it or not.
     
  19. Huttslime

    Huttslime Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I hope that we get to see them in action.
     
  20. thejeditraitor

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  21. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    No, What?
     
  22. Darth Claire

    Darth Claire Force Ghost star 5

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    So I kinda have this feeling *assuming Kylo survives to episode 9* that the other Knights of Ren will be the ones to kill Kylo. Like Kylo will turn good at the end and attempt to kill the other KOR. He succeeds partially *manages to kill a couple* but eventually either dies of his wounds or is killed by Snoke *or whatnot* leading Rey/Finn/Luke to take on Snoke and the surviving KOR themselves. IDK....it kinda fits with the trend of movie villains indirectly killing themselves (look at what happens in most MCU films) in order to avoid the heroes hands getting too dirty. [face_dunno]
     
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  23. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    no kotor influence.
     
  24. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Ah, ok thanks.
     
  25. kip73

    kip73 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think some of this is possible. Once we know what the Knights of Ren are all about, we'll be able to refine our ideas a bit more.
     
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