AquaRose, I believe Amon_Amarth's quote about a golden-haired, blue-eyed LÃºthien is from an early draft of "The Lay of Leithian" that wasn't used. People just got confused. No doubt in large part because half the posters weren't speaking of LÃºthien to begin with, lol. Also, note that LÃºthien's eyes are gray. She's dark-haired and gray-eyed like most, if not all, of her descendants. Elrond and his three children, for example. Hell, Elros, the Kings of NÃºmenor, Gondor and Arnor from him to Aragorn, and other DÃºnedain closely related to that line. In fact, these folks are so depressingly uniform in being dark-haired and gray-eyed, despite the occasional marriages to those of different coloring, that I figure such features are an inheritance from Melian, LÃºthien's mother and a Maia--one that doesn't exactly play by the rules of genetics. Of course, gray can become blue-gray, green-gray, or even silver with a little creative license. Regarding Haldir and the Elven company from LothlÃ³rien fighting at Helm's Deep in the TTT film, I admit I don't much appreciate their presence because a) I really like the Grey Company, which includes not only Halbarad, the Rangers of the North, but Elrond's twin sons, Aragorn's foster brothers and b) I can't help thinking that Celeborn and Galadriel need those troops to fend off attacks from Dol Guldur. Unfortunately, the only mentions of both these elements in LOTR proper, during the council of Elrond, was cut from the movies, so suddenly introducing them would only cause confusion for viewers who haven't obsessively read the books. My one moment of inappropriate laughing at the films has to do with the Grey Company or lack thereof, too, actually: When Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli stumble out of the Paths of the Dead in the ROTK EE to find the Corsairs right there, conveniently within running distance... Man, I almost bust my gut laughing. The Three Hunters clearly ran through an invisible space-time warp that instantaneously teleported them about two or three days' hard ride away to the Anduin. Though, to be sure, I often feel the Oathbreakers are a huge deus ex machina Tolkien created sometime between TTT and ROTK when he realized Aragorn was short an army. Lastly, I'm not so sure PJ totally massacred Elrond's character so much as time-shifted reactions he may have had, say, following Aragorn and Arwen's somewhat illicit betrothal. This tangle of relationships is pretty terrible on all parties involved and, IMO, it's not entirely out of the question that, at some point in the six or so decades between Aragorn's first meeting with Arwen and FOTR, all three said things they didn't intend or later regretted. "The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen" is kind of vague on this point. For example, I and many LOTR fanfic writers, lol, don't believe it's coincidental that Aragorn leaves the North and Rivendell for over twenty years after he falls in love with Arwen. Certainly, Gandalf probably encourages him to do so, as he needs the knowledge and experience if he's to ever restore the kingship, but Aragorn perhaps doesn't mind an excuse to be away from Elrond. Ditto for Arwen, who returns again to LÃ³rien.