ST The Last Jedi Box Office Discussion (see warning on page 307 before posting)

Congrats to BP for beating TLJ by a whopping $400,000 over a 4 day period which Monday was not a holiday for TLJ........

 

Oh dear, now let's go all over again.

This time the new Jumanji is Black Panther.

What is the point to compare the President's Day of TLJ to Black Panther's?

 

Imagine being so butthurt by TLJ's success that you post the least charitable stats every day for two months.

 

I appreciate these raw BO numbers for this holiday weekend in this BO thread posted without commentary or whining or discussing posters. It's why I check in this thread regularly.

 

This.

Box Office numbers require the context of comparison to mean anything. Being that this is the box office thread - one would assume that posting other comparisons would be not only welcomed but embraced.

This too.

 

Finally heading to see BP in a few. Where should I sit?

 

The real question is what do the numbers mean, especially for movies released so close together (TLJ, Jumanji, and BP for example)

Is the money made an accurate gauge of which film is more successful? Or the nebulous answer of which one was a "better" film?

In this thread some have pointed to the box office success of TLJ as validation for the direction of the film. Could be for Disney - that I do not know. Some have pointed at the success of other films as comparison.

One thing this thread has revealed to me is the legs of each film is a great barometer for success - which seems to hold up as the best reflection of how the movie is perceived by the general public. Series fans/sequels/hype/trailers seem to drive initial opening night numbers but with each day that goes by, the real strength of the film in regards to the box office is shown.

I don't think that should be a knock on Magnar. "Weaponization" or not, Its a relief honestly that one person is consistently showing the numbers the same way each time in comparison. And doing so without commentary within that post. The numbers are what they are.

If someone is driven to post it - especially without comment, I'm thankful for not having to look up the stats myself. Their feelings on the movie is irrelevant imo.

 

This isn't exactly the case. Thursday before last when TLJ jumped RO briefly, Magnar decided not to post the dailies and instead posted the weekly comparison, which favored RO. Again, only posting the least charitable stats. If they can be arranged in a way that looks unfavorable for TLJ, Magnar will find a way.

 

Amazing.

 

So what? Counterpost stats in ways that are favorable then. Magnar isn’t the first person to post stats from a POV in here. I swear, this thread is more whining than discussion of stats. The very idea that stats can be “weaponized” in a box office thread is preposterous. Stats are used to make points all over society. If you want to bar that, then you might as well bar all opinions and thought police everyone.

 

No thanks. I want less trolls, not more.

 

How on earth did open discussion become synonymous with trolling? Discussion = points and counterpoints, not points and then whining about points.

 

Show me any discussion Magnar has been a part of.

 

I don't know what he's talking about TBH. I don't post box office stats everyday. Most come on Fridays or Mondays because that's when the weekend actuals come in or the last weekly actual (Thursday). Week days are worth less $ than weekends typically anyway. I did post about the RO Valentine's Day one-day bump and how the PTA for Week 9 was higher than RO so...I don't get it. I don't post my opinion on the movie or attack other people in this thread and I don't know what there's to talk about besides numbers and their relation to other numbers. Creating a safe space away from numbers strikes me as a weird thing to do in the box office thread but whatever.

 

And yet it's done all the time. A mod literally just reiterated that stats are weaponized on this board.

That one Forbes contributor troll posted article after article that weaponized stats to make TLJ look like a flop.

BO stats are framed to push agenda on all sides. We all know that.

 

Weird configuration... where are the center seats?

 

It’s not done all the time. If you have problems with people posting stats in ways you disagree with, that’s your issue. They’re just stats. They’re not weapons. It’s a discussion forum. Disagree all you want, but this adamant need to whine to try to suppress posts people disagree with is just ridiculous. “Agenda” is such an OTT word to use in this context. They’re opinions. Everyone has them. We’re talking about movies. No one is trying to take away anyone’s guns in here.

Right, because he/she just posts stats in a box office thread without discussing posters or opinion. Imagine that.

 

it's fun to talk about these numbers and compare each movie's BO, but yes it's tiring when it's only usde to be negative about something.

Dont forget: success doesnt equal quality at all. In fact i have to admit that i find the general mainstream audience -as a whole- to have, well, pretty bad to average taste :-D so i enjoy discussing SWs BO since they are mostly the only big hits that i enjoy. But somehow i wouldnt care if TLJ was 100th or something in BO numbers. great movis are not often a to 10 success of the year.

 

empty theater for 6:45 PM

 

BP vs TLJ makes about as much sense as Indy vs ANH.

The same company wins in the end.

I hope BP makes as much money as humanly possible. It's sickening that it's taken this long to get a film with this kind of representation, at this level, made again. It's BO haul is far more important than TLJ.

SW is SW. It'll go on and on. TLJ performed beautifully, but well within the norm for Star Wars. The franchise is the definition of healthy and strong.

But BP has the potential to crack open long closed doors. It's box office haul has real consequence for those many of us that have hungered for representation at the highest levels of film, but have largely been denied.

 

Different yet vaguely familiar is a thing now. Jumanji and BP had some familiarity but not extraordinarily much. They were just different from the norm and have succeeded. Nice to see.