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Lit The Last Jedi by Jason Fry

Discussion in 'Literature' started by GrandAdmiralJello , Jul 21, 2017.

  1. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Using that phrase or being on them in the first place (and the reason I was there was that it was originally more general but kinda became concentrated on one aspect at the expense of everything else)?
     
  2. UnshavenWookie14

    UnshavenWookie14 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Why does this novelization have “Expanded Edition’ printed at the top? To be honest I haven’t been following details for this release (although I do plan to read it). I know the novelizations provide insights the films can’t, as well as providing addition snippets that were either cut from the film or added after. But TFA and RO didn’t have ‘Expanded Edition’ printed at the top of the front cover. Is TLJ supposedly providing a significant amount of additional content/insight compared to the amount in the first two canon novelizations? Or is it just part of the design concept and I’m reading into it to much? Haha

    Now that I’ve asked what I came here to ask... I noticed the fan divide cause by TLJ being discussed. I agree with the fact that twitter has contributed to this divisiveness. I’d add that twitter has basically replaced debating with what essentially amounts to polls. You can’t really have conversations with well developed/thought out viewpoints due to the word count and the votility of the twitter sphere. If you take to long proofreading your tweet for a divisive issue it misses its mark entirely because the conversation (and I use that word generously in most cases for twitter) has completely redeveloped and evolved into something else entirely. Twitter doesn’t allow for rhetoric.

    The result is what I referred to early when I said debates have become polls now. Its a system operating like, here’s the issue, cast your vote by picking your side, attack the other sides viewpoint despite relevance to original topic and impact on the integrity of the debate, whoever gets the most votes via comments is right on this topic. So the system winner is determined by which side took the least damage.

    I absolutely believe AdmiralNick is correct in starting ‘we can do better’. I also agree with Jedi Ben that better isn’t here yet. The key to bridging that gap (in my opinion of course) is that we have to relearn how to agree to disagree and that’s ok. And a step further from that we need to remember that coming away from a discussion with some new thoughts or opinions on a topic is not the same thing as losing an argument.

    In terms of this Novelization, I’ll admit I had my issues with TLJ, but I still thought the story itself was good. Most of my issues were a compilation of little things (like the comedy type and amount used). I plan to read the novelization with an open mind and hopeful to find further insight. Book and Film may be telling the same stiory, but different mediums paint with different colors. If you didn’t like the film and read the book focused on that, you are very likely to not enjoy the read.

    Note: I don’t mean this post to imply that I consider myself a perfect conversationalist or a superior debater to everyone on twitter. Far from it in fact. It’s just my humble opinion on tthe twitter verse and how it has diminished our ability to exchange ideas.
     
  3. DarthInternous

    DarthInternous Del Rey Associate Editor star 2 VIP

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    "Is TLJ supposedly providing a significant amount of additional content/insight compared to the amount in the first two canon novelizations?"

    Yes. That's the reason for "expanded edition" on the top.
     
  4. UnshavenWookie14

    UnshavenWookie14 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Much appreciated DarthInternous


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  5. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Woke up to my shipping notification from Amazon! So stoked for this novel, I haven't been this excited for a Star Wars novel in ages. :D

    Maybe they'll deliver it early to me? [face_praying]

    --Adm. Nick
     
  6. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Early? The book releases March 6th (tomorrow), so since it has shipped today, you might get it on time?!
     
  7. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Once in a blue moon (I don't want to jinx it, lol) stuff magically arrives to me the same day. Maybe the Amazon fairies like me? :p

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  8. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Is that what they're calling their drone deliveries? Fairy service?
     
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  9. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    Americans, just have to be first - it hits here 8 March.

    Turns out I've requested the Friday off - had a day of leave to use before the end of the month.
     
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  10. vong333

    vong333 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    TLJ is like AOTC. The novel will end up being better and more complete than the movie.
     
  11. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Interesting idea. I found the AoTC novelization to be so-so. The best one, IMHO, in terms of delving deeper into the movie and in general craftsmanship as a novel, was the Rogue One by Alexander Freed.
     
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  12. vong333

    vong333 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, AOTC had most of the deleted scenes in the novel, plus a few extras. So far, from the looks of this, TLJ novelization is going to be like the prequel ones, with the extra scenes and dialogue.
     
  13. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    I did like the prequel novelizations better than the original trilogy ones in part because of that.
     
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  14. Darth Caliban

    Darth Caliban Jedi Knight star 4

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    I'm a bit confused now. Not about liking the PT ones more but about the extended content. The OT Novelizations also had additional scenes in them.
     
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  15. Abalore

    Abalore Jedi Master star 2

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    Started the audiobook. The inestimable Marc Thompson is absolutely nailing it. More importantly, so is Jason Fry.

    That prologue... =D=
     
  16. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Master star 4

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    Okay, so someone on Wookieepedia to do one thing from this novel so far really:

    The first name of
    Senator Arbo of Kuat from Bloodline

    But offered little else as to the reason for this mention. How frustrating!!
     
  17. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Can't you... can't you just wait a little?
     
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  18. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Master star 4

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    Blame Wookieepedia. They put something up and it frustrates me!
     
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  19. Diego Lucas

    Diego Lucas Jedi Knight star 4

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    WITH SPOILERS
     
  20. nancipants

    nancipants Jedi Knight star 1

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    I've only read the Prologue and Chapter 1 so far, but I can already tell this novel is going to be a treat. @jasonfry is SUCH a good writer.
     
  21. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Master star 4

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    So... anything on the New Republic? Or if Snoke had any rank in the Empire?
     
  22. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 9 Staff Member Administrator

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    Pre-ordered it on Amazon UK today since it isn't out til Thursday. Probably won't get it til next week.
     
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  23. Yunzabit

    Yunzabit Jedi Knight star 3

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    Do we get any cool details on Snoke's origin?
     
  24. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh yes to both. I touch on the first in the Endor to Jakku thread.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  25. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    =D=
    "Control. You must learn control".
     
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