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Lit The Last Jedi by Jason Fry

Discussion in 'Literature' started by GrandAdmiralJello , Jul 21, 2017.

  1. Diego Lucas

    Diego Lucas Jedi Knight star 4

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    Waiting the Brazil version, that will be release on march 26, 2 days after, it's the blu ray, it will be a good week.
     
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  2. ardavenport

    ardavenport Jedi Master star 4

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    I got the book yesterday and I've mostly only read the Luke and Rey parts. I did not see anything specific about that scene of young Rey looking at the ship flying off. I assume that this is when her parents sold her to Plutt, but they likely told her they were coming back and she's been hanging onto that for years.


     
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  3. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    It could also be that the Force vision was being metaphorical on this point. As TLJ has shown, trying to decipher them is tricky, at best.
     
  4. ardavenport

    ardavenport Jedi Master star 4

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    Are these typos?

    Page 147, 3rd paragraph from top; "Han . . . Han was about it," Luke said. "But Leia trusted me with her son ......"

    Should that be "Han was against it" ?

    Page 233, 4th paragraph from bottom; She willed it into her hand -- and it flew it into the air, ....

    Is there an extra 'it' in that sentence (though I suppose the two 'it's could be two different things, so it would be grammatically correct, just odd)?
     
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  5. TheRedBlade

    TheRedBlade Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm only 15 chapters in, but some early thoughts. In general, this book proves that Star Wars novelizations are best written by Star Wars novelists. Most novelizations range from bland to terrible. The notable exceptions are Stover's Revenge of the Sith (still the GOAT, in my opinion), and this, which is better than I expected it to be - and I expected to like this book!
    • Loved the prologue. It is deeply sad that Luke seemed destined for being dissatisfied with his life no matter what happened, but that seems to fit the theme here.
    • ACKBAR IS BACK. This one is harder to pin down, but Ackbar is perhaps the first character I've read in both canons where he feels like the same guy. Maybe it's all the ocean metaphors.
    • I'm appreciating the expanded technical and tactical discussions in this book. It is also VERY obvious why these would not have worked on-screen.
    • Mr. Fry writes an excellent Rey.
    • It's alarming how well this book dovetails with Cobalt Squadron. Again, to anyone listening at Del Rey, this is why you hire experienced, successful Star Wars writers for these things.
    • Poe is great - a character totally in keeping with pilot characters of the EU, with a fascinating bit of self-awareness: he knows he's the hero of a Star Wars story. The best part of Oscar Isaac's performance easily translate to the page.
    • I was tickled that when Rose reviewing her thoughts on Finn, she finds him cute, but distracted by a "bizarre crush on his friend." It's unclear whether the friend is Rey or Poe, and I like it this way.
    • No one has convincingly demonstrated how a Starfortress bomber would fit in any Resistance hanger we've seen.
    • Of course the entire crew of the Cobalt Hammer died, but it was extra painful seeing their deaths through Paige's eyes. Still, one of the rare missed beats - which Jason could not have known about just from the script - was the look of pained horror on Paige's face as she watched the bomber formation get ripped apart by TIEs.
    • Poe's scene during the evacuation of the Anodyne was great, and added substantially to his arc.
     
  6. wobbits

    wobbits Jedi Master star 4

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    The Luke line from the move when talking to Rey about Leia sending Ben to him is "Han was Han about it,"
     
  7. Giovs

    Giovs Jedi Knight star 3

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    Any info on Han's funeral? My book will only arrive in 2 weeks or so...
     
  8. SensationalSean

    SensationalSean Jedi Knight star 3

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    Here is my spoiler-free review for the New York Daily News - I loved this novelization, it was so absorbing!
     
  9. jasonfry

    jasonfry VIP star 4 VIP

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    Big interview with the Independent, and we cover a lot about the process, that prologue, and more. Including a discussion of a few things we considered/tried but ultimately chose not to do. (Pilots! Some guy named Skywalker!)
     
  10. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  11. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    6 or 7 versions of the script? How different was each one? Were they all written by Rian or did other people contribute to them i.e. Lucas, Abrams, Lucasfilm Story Group, John Knoll?
     
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  12. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I’m done with it. Opened it at just before 8 the kids went down for the night, finished by 10.

    Such a good book. Literal love for it.

    Getting inside Snoke’s head is just brilliant. I read it aloud to my wife. His inner monologue about what he did to the First Order is divine.

    Tantalising titbits about the New Republic.

    Rey is written so very well.

    Luke being ready to go back and seeing Rey and Ben together and changing his mind was gut wrenching.

    Everything Hux does or says or thinks is pure snark. Amusing. Lots more Poe, and the throne room scene remains the highlight of the film.

    Is it better than the RotS novelisation. It might just be.


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  13. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    See, you utterly wolfed it down - you ought to have literary indigestion at the very least!
     
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  14. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, I loved those! Here's to hoping JJ picks up on that thread for IX!

    --Adm. Nick
     
  15. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I should do, Ben! But blame @jasonfry for making it such a brilliant read!

    Incidentally, Mr Fry, I have decided you owe me an acknowledgment drink.

    But all is forgiven for everything beautiful Snoke. *laughs*


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  16. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    This is you Sinny:

    [​IMG]

    Jason's the chef!
     
  17. ardavenport

    ardavenport Jedi Master star 4

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    About your question. Yes.

     
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  18. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I hope there's a spot for the InterLukes somewhere in the future - they sound really cool.
     
  19. nancipants

    nancipants Jedi Knight star 1

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    Finished last night. I literally bawled during Luke’s death scene.

    I loved all the varying POVs. I’m usually not a big fan of omniscient POV, but it worked here.

    Especially loved all the scenes Jason got to expand on and really get inside the characters’ heads. Can he have another Del Rey novel now?
     
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  20. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    Sadly, this was a disappointment. It's quite clear Jason gave it his best shot, but his aim was fatally compromised and hindered by the fact he was novelising TLJ. The one thing that would have made it far, far better is more Luke, but that just wasn't here. I was hoping for a better sense of Luke's viewpoint, but what's here is more or less what the film gives us minus Hamill's killer performance to sell it. In that respect, most of the weaknesses of the film are replicated here.

    As to the fabled NR references, either it was a sentence here, another there or they were too damn subtle I missed them completely. (Quite, quite seriously - gimme the page numbers.) In this respect I can recognise that Fry's hands were probably tied by the lack of knowing whatever is being done in Ep 9, but I still feel it's a missed opportunity. Especially with regard to Bloodline, this could have paid that book off but doesn't.

    The big success of the book lies elsewhere then - Luke, Rey, Holdo, Poe, Ren, Hux - they are very much as they are in the movie. Where Fry does work a good amount of magic is in character recollections:

    Snoke's musings about the true nature of the Contingency
    Poe learning to fly in the atmosphere and orbit of Yavin with his mother Shara, including flying around the Death Star wreckage
    Hux recalling that the Jedi used child soldiers - he has the Imperial version
    Snoke running through the list of his rivals - Brendol Hux, Sloane, Rax
    Luke's adventures in the decades before were aimed at uncovering the greater truths of the Force
    Snoke aided the Empire in the Unknown Regions - that demands to be expanded on, as does the greater truths he claimed to hold and wished to deny Skywalker

    These were excellent and hinted at a grander tapestry that absolutely has to be developed further.
     
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  21. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Should I read the regular one or the expanded one?
     
  22. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 8

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    There is only the expanded one.
     
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  23. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Expanded.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  24. Giovs

    Giovs Jedi Knight star 3

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    Heck, Amazon is taking forever to ship my book.
     
  25. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 9 Staff Member Administrator

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    Amazon UK split my order (4 books). First part has a Monday delivery date. Unfortunately Jedi is in the second part which is estimated for next Friday.