Lit The Last Jedi by Michael Reaves

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Zorkel567, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. CeiranHarmony Force Ghost

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    did you read the book yet? Yub, actual timetravel, theoretical one and its practical use too in a reduced form in combination with other force powers. tell me if you want to be spoilered
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  2. Manisphere Force Ghost

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  3. Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group

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    Thanks for the offer. Haven't read it, but I don't know when and if I will... and I'm not sure how long it will be before I'll be spoiled anyway... but I think I'll wait some more. I might come back to this.
  4. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Why do people start watching a TV series midway through a series and then go back and start from the beginning if they like it? Sometimes people like to know what goes on later first, for instance watching the early eps of B5 not knowing it ends up going to Shadow Dancing would be quite different, I started with War Without End! Not exactly the best starting place! But playing detective to deduce what was going on was fun.

    Whatever people may say, LFL or DR could have presented this as Coruscant Nights: Book 4: The Last Jedi. They didn't. But they did stick the covers of those 3 books on the back, so making it clear there have been earlier stories. Nonetheless, it's presented as a standalone story.
  5. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Or reading book 4 long after the first 3. So much fun to see how much you remember and how much you don't.
  6. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    But is it book 4? I could class this as Book 8, as there's references all the way back to Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter!
  7. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Book 4 of the Coruscant Nights books. Book 8 of the Reavesverse. Shadow Hunter, the Drongar duology and the 4 CN books but can't think of the other one.
  8. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Think I've miscounted by 1 then!
  9. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Death Star is part of that but that isn't till later.
  10. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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  11. Todd the Jedi Mod and Sitcom Dad of SWTV

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    I'd also count SOTE among the Reaves-verse, especially if we're including Shadow Games.
  12. Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group

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    OK, I see where you're coming from with this. So the question for all of those who read the book would be (and I find this one quite interesting) is this Coruscant Nights 4 even if they decided to sell it as a standalone? Because with the entire Jax/I5/Vader combination, it sure seems to be more connected than your average Reavesverse entry.

    And then it's really no diffrence whether you start with this book, or with CN2 or CN3.
  13. Todd the Jedi Mod and Sitcom Dad of SWTV

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    When it comes down to it, yes, this is absolutely Coruscant Nights 4. It picks up not too long after the third book, features the same characters and explores similar themes. Remember, the original pitch for the trilogy was that it'd be three stories featuring the same characters, but with a different plot each book. And that's what happened, though there were some over-arching elements throughout the series.

    I know a big goal for the people at LucasBooks is to make any book accessible as a stand-alone novel, even if it's part of a larger series. Sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't. But I think The Last Jedi fulfills that goal better than the Coruscant Nights trilogy proper. A big thing that sets this book apart is the fact that it barely even takes place on Coruscant, whereas the first three take place entirely on Coruscant, lending the name to the series. That said, this is less a "Coruscant Nights" book and more a "continuing adventures of Jax Pavan and Co." book, just as, say, Truce At Bakura is simply the continuing adventures of Luke and Co. from the movie trilogy.
  14. Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group

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    Ah, it's not limited to Coruscant. OK, that would kind of disqualify it for being a Coruscant Nights book.
  15. Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group

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    Ah, it's not limited to Coruscant. OK, that would kind of disqualify it for being a Coruscant Nights book.
  16. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Yeah, that's a good way of setting it apart - it isn't based much on Coruscant, nice spot by Todd.
  17. Grievousdude Jedi Master

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    Really only the Pol Haus parts are on Coruscant.
  18. Jedifirefly5 Jedi Master

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    How is it that Vader is so cool and Anakin is so so..... a mixed bag, and we know they are the same person? I guess it's the difference of the story being told through the eyes of people that know him well, as opposed to an outsider's view that can't be privy to who he really is. Vader is a chilling/thrilling nightmare. Anakin is a lost child.
  19. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Or.... You don't know the power of the dark side!
  20. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    Or, if you prefer the psychological explanation, he was probably heavily traumatized by the events in ROTS. He felt that both Obi-Wan and Padmé betrayed him and would stop trusting anyone. The more openly you show feelings, the easier it is for others to hurt you.
    Vader is only cold on the outside, on the inside he is a very passionate and perceptive person.
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  21. patchworkz7 Force Ghost

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    I thought Jax wasn't supposed to be all that powerful? Or does he get a major boost in power in this book?

    TBH, I could probably stand to reread the third Corsucant Nights book as I don't recall much of it, but from what's been said in the thread I take it Jax finds something that allows him access to these new abilities and maybe a little power boost?
  22. Sinrebirth SWC and EUC Forum Moderator

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    Darth Ramage's Holocron, the Bota, and the Pyronium.
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  23. Manisphere Force Ghost

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    Yeah, but his ability to hide his Force presence behind a potted plant is all his!
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  24. Wonderllama Jedi Master

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    Random thought. I would love it if I-Five somehow became the main droid of Episode VII, replacing C-3PO!
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  25. Grievousdude Jedi Master

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    I would like that too.
  26. LarryG Jedi Master

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    The stasis field Darth Vader used to immobilize everyone on Jax's ship, has that ever showed up anywhere else?
  27. Darth__Syphilis Jedi Master

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    You'd be surprised at how many lost children end up as "chilling/thrilling nightmare" adults. Anakin's dysfunction as a Jedi is the beginning of his mastery as a Sith.
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