The Lightsaber Effects Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by krnbanguboi, Oct 23, 2005.

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  1. krnbanguboi Jedi Master

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    Mar 4, 2005
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    Alright. Many have noticed that I post alot of topics. So I decided to keep all my new effects and updates in this little thread here. I hope the moderators won't mind.

    To start my new Effects Thread I decided to compare Ryan's old and new methods and Blake's method:

    Ryan's Old method:
    1.5mb-Click

    Ryan's New method:
    1.6mb-Click

    Blake's glow method:
    1.5mb-Click

    All Clips in one for Easier Comparing:
    1.6mb-Click


    Also, be sure to check out the links here and here for more great lightsaber tutorials.


    DV EDIT: Title changed at author's request
  2. NoLukky Jedi Knight

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    Aug 28, 2005
    first of all i think ryan's old method is the best but what color r ur lightsaber suppose to be, becuase ryan's both methods are purple but the other method is more bluish for some reason so i dont know what color the lightsabers r suppose to be

    -NoLuKKy-
  3. krnbanguboi Jedi Master

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    That's Batkin's glow method. It's supposed to be a rich blue.
  4. batkins182 Force Ghost

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    Jul 1, 2005
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    Hey, could you send me the saber mattes and the unedited video so I can do the glows and tweek them and hopfully help you out. I think I'm on the trail to upgrade my method.
  5. krnbanguboi Jedi Master

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    Sure. By the way this was the first time I tried your method and I like the excess of the glow give off. The frame rate is 15 and the video size is 320x240.

    Empty Footage: RightClick>Save as...

    SaberMatte:RightClick>Save as...
  6. Thrice3 Force Ghost

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    Mar 24, 2004
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    Round those edges. Effect---> Noise---> Median
  7. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Jan 31, 2004
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    Something is wrong...I had to offset the two footages and the Black Matte saber still goes faster than the source footage
  8. krnbanguboi Jedi Master

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    weird. I didn't want to round the sabers because I just wanted to compare the glows.
  9. Kaat Jedi Master

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    Apr 5, 2004
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    From the ones you've posted, I like the right one the most.

    I've tried it, too. A bit unusual, but I kinda like how it turned out:

    http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2KCOVIDVZZGIM2ITEOFR2486KG
  10. GuanoLad Jedi Knight

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    Jul 8, 1998
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    Why does this seem to be such an obsession for people? Considering how inconsistent light sabre glows are for each official movie, even within the same movie, why do people go so nuts over things so inconsequential?
  11. krnbanguboi Jedi Master

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    Kaat at 3 seconds into the clip the saber prop is visible about 1 meter away from the actual core. Though I do like the spreadness of color to the saber glow.

    GuanoLad we like to create more sabers because we as fanfilm creators have our own perspectives on how sabers should look like. And if we settled for ILM's sabers then we'd be boring and bland and there would be no TFN.
  12. Kaat Jedi Master

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    Apr 5, 2004
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    Yeah, I noticed even while composing the thing. The footage was somehow damaged or something there so it didn't fit the saber matte at this very frame. But the rest was fine, so I didn't bother and hoped everybody would be so stunned away by the clip's coolness that noone would notice. :D
  13. krnbanguboi Jedi Master

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    So.. Batkins ya done yet. :)
  14. batkins182 Force Ghost

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    Jul 1, 2005
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    I'm getting closer. I'm trying to update my method. Here are my new results for my more updated method...

    [image=http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/batkins182/NewGlows.jpg]

    Please Comment
  15. Kaat Jedi Master

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    Quite good. But I guess a slight desaturation of the sabers to fit the footage better would help here. ;)
  16. Rhys Force Ghost

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    I did change around the method i was using a bit in the end, and got pretty much identical RvB glows (Which is what i set out to do originally). Though it's not much different from the method i posted a while back, which is again not that much different from Batkins' (although the glows do come out a bit different), the method i posted i think got the glows pretty much the same as RvB, but i haven't been able to play with that much since cos my pc got unintentionally wiped about two weeks ago. I do still have the files, which i recovered after format, but haven't got round to sorting them out yet.

    Basically, what i did change deviated slightly from this, which is the method i put together with what i put in my thread, though even though that's an older clip it's pretty much what i was aiming for.
  17. batkins182 Force Ghost

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    At first, I started out trying to make RvB glows. I think I got pretty close with my original method. Now I'm try to update a new method just for lightsaber glows in genral.
  18. batkins182 Force Ghost

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    Which glows/colors would you perfer?

    #1
    [image=http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/batkins182/GreenSaberTry.jpg]

    #2
    [image=http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/batkins182/GreenSaberTry2.jpg]
  19. Master_Fong Jedi Padawan

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    Oct 26, 2005
    [face_peace] Brian, If i Sent you my duel movie could edit the light saber effect or show me how to do it?
  20. batkins182 Force Ghost

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    Look in the sticky thread at the begginning of the Fan Film Forums and look here.
  21. batkins182 Force Ghost

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    Hey, I'm happy with these results but could yall tell me if yall like these glows/colors. If so I'm planning on making a tutorial on it.

    [image=http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/batkins182/NewMethodResults.jpg]

    Please Comment
  22. Rhys Force Ghost

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    Jun 27, 2005
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    I think the glow is dropping off a bit too harshly, or is a little too saturated around the core, i'm not sure (imo)

    I still kinda like how i got:
    [image=http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9652/screen50jm.jpg]

    But it doesn't always work well following that way to the word on all footage. All just personal preference i guess. My method has been tweaked since that pic, but like i said, i got wiped [face_plain]

    Rhys


    (heh, the amount of time we've spent tweaking these methods)
  23. Macro_Roshuma Jedi Knight

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    Aug 27, 2004
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    I like the ILM glows from episode 3. I dont understand what people see in the ESB glows... IMO they looked Waaaayy too big... and then there's the "chainsaw" blade shape that they had going on... so [face_peace] (dude with the ILM glows) Hehe. and I concur that since George Lucas invented Lightsabers, who are we to judge that ours are better... I mean come on. I for one liked the pointy tips in Ep.3!
  24. krnbanguboi Jedi Master

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    I like the new glows batkins.
  25. CloudofSulfur Jedi Knight

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    Here's my effect.
    [image=http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/1917/ep3ia805772uu.jpg]

    I use Gimp 2.
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