The Lightsaber Effects Thread

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  1. Chaos52 Jedi Grand Master

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    Nov 6, 2008
    http://www.videocopilot.net/presets/light_sabers_v2/

    Download the project. Extract, there will be a folder in there with 2 lightsaber presets. Copy both to C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe After Effects CS3\Support Files\Presets (assuming you have after effects installed on the C drive). Restart After Effects and the preset should show up in your "Effects and Presets" window under "Animation Presets"

    -Joe

    PS - videocopilot says their presets work with AE 7 and up... so that could be your problem.
  2. StormTrooper1776 Jedi Master

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    Mar 26, 2004
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  3. madhorizons Jedi Knight

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    May 10, 2006
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    I tried to make my own contact/ignition flash. This is how I went about it...

    1st...took a picture of a halloween/christmas light that had some paint comin off of it.

    ISO 100, Shutter @ 15s, Aperture @ 8-11 (photo not with added fx, just cropped & shrunk for web).

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/madhorizons/Photoshop%20Manipulations/as_shot.jpg]

    I only took the 1/2 that was on the black. I will re-do this where i can use the shot as-is...but didn't have what i needed at tht time. After a lot of erasing, rotating, transfer modes, etc (all in Photoshop CS4), this is what I came up with:

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/madhorizons/Photoshop%20Manipulations/saber_flash.jpg]

    And what it looks like on Photoshop's Linear Dodge (Add) setting:
    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/madhorizons/Photoshop%20Manipulations/rvd2_addflash.jpg]

    Feedback welcome.
  4. ElectroFilms Jedi Knight

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    there is your problem
  5. SilentBat Force Ghost

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    Aug 28, 2006
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    Never use the Video Copilot lightsabers unless you are pre-vis.
  6. Ricky_Calrissian Jedi Grand Master

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    Nov 17, 2008
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    Hmm.. Well I don't know a lot about flares, but personally? You should put them in motion and then show us what it looks like. If you feather those edges out even more, and make the horizontal line a little less prominent, then it'd be REALLY nice. It looks a bit like you put some layers on add mode for the flare? I say that because its pretty bright around the center of the flare, try making any layers on top of each other on screen mode instead. Other than that, pretty goob job. Look forward to more!


    [face_laugh] [face_laugh] =D=
  7. madhorizons Jedi Knight

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    May 10, 2006
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    I'll put it in motion tonight. Ultimately, I need to re-do the picture with a pinhole in FRONT of the light source. Yes...some of the layers are on add b/c I had to fill in some gaps between the footage & core. I kind of liked the intensity in the middle, which raises/lowers by using levels....i'll do some w/ screen & add side by side. The horizontal line is a personal preference thing, but I'll tweak it and do a cpl versions with & without. Hopefully I have some saber smacking footage laying around still....i THINK i do.

    The feedback's much appreciated, keep it comin!
  8. -Spiff- Jedi Master

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    Jun 9, 2005
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    Anamorphic flares are funny when the footage wasn't shot with anamorphic optics. Note that there is no horizontal streak in the picture of the light. Without other anamorphic artifacts, anamorphic flares are actually bad compositing.

    In fact, if shot with a CCD camera, you'd actually see vertical streaks across the image, not horizontal, constrained to the very center of the bright spot. CMOS sensors won't produce that artifact.

    -Spiff
  9. Mae Jedi Knight

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  10. madhorizons Jedi Knight

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    I agree...which is why I moved the Photoshop file into AE as a composition. That way I can remove the streak or whatever depending on footage.

    I'm about to leave to "work" from home the rest of the day, so I should be able to have it composited and in motion for an example. I have a 1s clip I'm using from the RvB2 application vid (Nate did say he'll leave it up to "play with" and "post on youtube or whatever" LOL). I'll post that later today with all my settings, etc for critique.

    Thanks much!
  11. madhorizons Jedi Knight

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    May 10, 2006
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    Test 1 here:

    32bit
    Linear
    sRGB
    Sabers xfer mode = add
    Clash xfer mode = add

    http://vimeo.com/7455151
  12. fjrsm Jedi Knight

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    Sep 25, 2007
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecpin0LTkFQ
    It says the video quality might look better once it's completely processed.

    EDIT: Ah, there we go.
  13. Vidina Force Ghost

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    Jan 11, 2006
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    That's harsh, and not at all true. Sure, if you want to do it the best you can, you shouldn't be playing around with presets, but it can work great as a 2-point roto technique, if you just do the glows yourself.
  14. DarthKomar Jedi Master

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    Nov 22, 2007
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    YOU HEARTLESS BASTARD!

    You killed the tripod!

    You got what you deserved in the end!

    Lolz
  15. VaporTrail Force Ghost

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    At least he broke his intentionally.
    The last one I went through was a rather tragic and humiliating accident.




    But we got the shot.
  16. DarthKomar Jedi Master

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    Nov 22, 2007
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    I went to do a VFX shoot once, pulled out the tripod and it fell apart in my hands. Some one had killed it and simply put the parts back in place and left it there for me to find :mad:
  17. -Joshy- Jedi Knight

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    May 21, 2005
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    I am working on re-doing the Lightsaber effects at the end of ROTJ in the duel between Luke and Vader and this was a test shot I did before I started work on the full motion video. I think it turned out well, and for anyone who wants to roto the same shot the un-roto'd frame I created will be linked at the bottom of the post.

    [image=http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1503/josheditlukevsvadergree.jpg]

    and an alternate colour scheme.

    [image=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/60/josheditlukevsvader.jpg]

    Links

    Original Frame

    Un-roto'd Frame

  18. jedi573 Force Ghost

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    Sep 24, 2005
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    Josh,

    It's not bad, but I think it's perhaps a little bright and saturated for that shot.

    Here's another stab at it; it's more toned down in regards to how the background is lit.

    Click on image.
    [image=http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2300/joshyroto01.jpg]

    Andy
  19. Pac-El Jedi Knight

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    This is a fantastic thread! Thank you! I've learned SO MUCH here!

    Pac-El
  20. Vidina Force Ghost

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    Jan 11, 2006
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    You've actually read all 8343 posts? Nice.
  21. Corrin_Wyndryder Force Ghost

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    Oct 17, 2001
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    Here's a before and after of a frame from my current project.

    [image=http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/corrin_wyndryder/TapeA1b.jpg] [image=http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/corrin_wyndryder/Sabers01.jpg]

    Thoughts?
  22. Whiteley79 Jedi Knight

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    Mar 19, 2006
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    Considering your shooting under sunlight, your glow wouldnt be that big and bright.
  23. VaporTrail Force Ghost

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    May 19, 2002
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    And did you color correct that footage? Holy saturation.
  24. jedi573 Force Ghost

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    Sep 24, 2005
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    A fresh take on an older image.

    Aside from one attempt on a still frame a few years ago (that I quickly erased), this yellow sword is the first non-canon color I've done.

    I think it turned out pretty well. It's the same method I've been using lately.

    Feedback appreciated! :)

    Click on image.
    [image=http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7492/nateroto2.jpg]

    Andy
  25. Ryan_W VIP

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    Aug 15, 2001
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    Brighten the source image.
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