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The LIGHTSABRE COMPETITION Strikes Back

Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by DaftMaul, Jul 8, 2002.

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Which of the three lightsabre examples do you prefer?

Poll closed Jul 15, 2002.
  1. Version 'A'

    22 vote(s)
    22.9%
  2. Version 'B'

    27 vote(s)
    28.1%
  3. Version 'C'

    47 vote(s)
    49.0%
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  1. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    Glad to see you around, Pixel. I hoped you wouldn't miss out on seeing this happen.

    Steve - Next time. :)
     
  2. Happy Ninja

    Happy Ninja Jedi Knight star 6

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    Well, I say there, jolly good shot there, old man...

    I loved the new pics, but I just have one comment to make about this competition, and the last one...

    The blades are rotoscoped on to what appears to be pretty dark pictures, but I was wondering, how do these methods work on light surfaces?

    On of the hardest things that I have had to combat when doing roto, is doing stuff set against a sky, where the glow seems to disappear. Have you guys had problems doing stuff like that with these methods?
     
  3. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    That's part of the reason I suggested we do a picture that is not on a pure black background also. Hence the shot from Episode I.

    Lightsabers do tend to dissapear the lighter the background is. The glow should only lighten the background behind them, and when the background id bright, it gets funny.

    Basically, for it to show up on a light background, a whole different method comes into play in order for you to see the glow. Ideally, one can pick his/her location and keep it dim or suitable for the saber glow to appear impressive on it but in the event that there is a bright background that must be rotoed over, you would probably end up not wanting to use any of our methods as-is since you wouldn't see much of anyhting.
     
  4. Venardhi

    Venardhi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    where is the picture that was the base, I would like to try my hand at it.
     
  5. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    [link=http://www.zenvideo.net/ryan_w/temp/dooku_style_unrotoed.jpg]Dooku Style[/link] and [link=http://www.zenvideo.net/ryan_w/temp/tpm.jpg]Episode I[/link] unrotoed pics.
     
  6. Neszis

    Neszis Jedi Padawan star 4

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    May 23, 2001
    AAAAAAAHH!!!

    I accidentally pressed C! I thought the button was BELOW it, not above! I WANT B!!!

    Woooops...

    ~Neszis~
     
  7. WhisperingDeath

    WhisperingDeath Jedi Padawan star 4

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    May 25, 2002
    okay i know obi-wan and i know qui-gon but who is the guy holding the two sabers?
     
  8. Bastion

    Bastion Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Jun 2, 2001
    That's Ryan. He wanted to make sure that no matter who wins he would still be in the first place! :D
     
  9. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    lol. :D

    Actually, WhisperingDeath, Pixel and Dorkman thought it would be a good pic to work on because it was a decent close-up pic and because of the incredibly blank background; nothing to hide the shape and color of the glow of the sabers.
     
  10. Various

    Various Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Personally I like B.

    Yeah, doing a saber on a bright background gave me a headache too. This is the best result I've had with Photoshop using variations on the Ryan/Link technique.

    [link=http://home.att.net/~jared.05/bright_saber_test.jpg]clickie if you care to see[/link]
     
  11. ExFilms

    ExFilms Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's funny, I must think opposite than most of you. I thought the even glow of "A" looked the most realistic.

     
  12. Krapitino

    Krapitino Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jun 11, 2002
    I like choice A the best, but choice C is the most movie-like.

    By the way, [link=http://krapitino.pisem.net/Roto.jpg]Clickie[/link] for my efforts...
     
  13. DaftMaul

    DaftMaul Former TFN Fan Films Staff star 5 VIP

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    What, suddenly I'm not a finalist??

    Yeah I got that wrong didn't I :)

    But it is definately for bragging rights between these three. And so far 'C' has those rights...
     
  14. funkedelic_bob

    funkedelic_bob Jedi Youngling

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    Mar 22, 2002
    So we will know who the winner is when?
     
  15. DaftMaul

    DaftMaul Former TFN Fan Films Staff star 5 VIP

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    Check out the first post. The poll closes in 2 days.

    ::DM makes mental note - make competitions 3 day affairs in future::
     
  16. Ryan_W

    Ryan_W VIP star 4 VIP

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    Yeah. Most of the voting is done inside of the first couple days..
     
  17. DaftMaul

    DaftMaul Former TFN Fan Films Staff star 5 VIP

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    The last one was pretty close right up until the end, and people kept on voting right up until the end. For some reason (as you said) this one hasn't really moved for the part four days.

    Hands up who thinks 'C' is going to win this one? :)

    Just to drag it out for the last two days, anyone care to guess who they think did which clip? Competitiors, don't answer, but it might be fun to see if everyone gets it right (I didn't - I only got one right)
     
  18. ChrisHanel

    ChrisHanel Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Dorkman Scott - A
    PixelMagic - B
    Ryan_W - C

    That's my guess.

    -Chris
     
  19. buliwif

    buliwif Jedi Padawan star 4

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    well, i have to say that those are some great looking sabers! very well done! and i figured since everyone else is showing theirs, i'd add my two cents worth... worthy of being shown? who can say... but I like 'em... lol


    [image=http://www.geocities.com/buliwif27/sabertest.jpg]
     
  20. nhaines

    nhaines Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I chose A because I liked the color of the blue sabre best. i think C was the nicest, and I'll betcha B is the method I use. :p I think that's Ryan's.

    Anyhow, I think I'd be thrilled to have any method grace my film. :D
     
  21. funkedelic_bob

    funkedelic_bob Jedi Youngling

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    IT'S CLOSED! IT'S CLOSED!!! WHO WON?!?!? DID I MISS IT?!?? :)
     
  22. DaftMaul

    DaftMaul Former TFN Fan Films Staff star 5 VIP

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    Good spot Funk :)

    The winner is........

    Ryan Wieber! (c)

    In second place is......

    PixelMagic (b)

    and from hero to zero....... :p

    Dorkman Scott (a)

    I always though it was a risk Scott, you had everything to lose. Congradulations Ryan, I guess that makes it 1-1 in the great 'saber comps' I wonder what a Saber Penalty Shootout would be?

    Actually, as has been said before, they're all very good, and I remember on the last saber competition, there where some really good examples of rotoscoping that only got about four votes, the bar has been pushed really high just lately...
     
  23. _Vengeance_

    _Vengeance_ Jedi Master star 4

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    well, might as well show off what i've got (only the close up pic, though)

    http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/shadowfalls/done.jpg
     
  24. EagleIFilms

    EagleIFilms Jedi Knight star 5

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    AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO LENS FLARES!!!!

    PLEASE!!!!!

    WHY DO PEOPLE...ahem...why do people insist on putting lens flares on their lightsabers?

    The movies didn't have them, and most fan films don't have them. SO WHY???? :_|

    Btw, that picture WOULD be pretty good, if it didn't have those big, ugly, lens flares in it.
     
  25. _Vengeance_

    _Vengeance_ Jedi Master star 4

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    lol! ok, ok! lol, i'll fix it! Lens flares just kinda... "spice it up" i guess...

    oh, and btw, in the movies, the sabers did have a small lens flare when there's a close up on them :p
     
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