Don't I just do the most daft things? I heard somewhere that it was at the end of the credits or somink... Xan is it the symbol at the bottom of the main menu page? Y'know the squarish thingy...some ppl say there's a ring symbol...gosh...Argh! Yeah Jean...the whole fan club credits. Give me bonus points for fast forwarding some of it! Heheh...30 minutes...gosh I think the fan club credits are close to 15 minutes long! [face_shocked] Aragon..yep, the fact that he's 87 and still looks fine.