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Lit The LSG Lit Crossover Watch Thread

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Taalcon, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    FWIW, it doesn't look like its the SG that directs all the things. I think they're much more coordinating/big-picture, and then maybe editorial too. Authors retain room for creativity.

    Example: Sloane appeared in Aftermath because Wendig decided to use her, not because he was told to. He thought it'd be cool, he liked the character, and it worked. So he pitched it to the SG, and they gave their blessing. He's said as much.

    Once that was pitched, I'm going to guess (and jasonfry can comment if he wishes) that Del Rey thought it'd be neat to have connecting stories and since they were including shorts with the Rise of the Empire bind-up, they had Levers of Power. Unless it was Jason's idea to use her. I have no idea.

    But basically it's not just top-level. I think both publishers and authors have the latitude to have their own ideas on how to do these stories, and the SG just oversees it. Perhaps they have a sense of the kind of stories they'd like the publishers to do, but it's up to them in the usual fashion to come up with them. And then they talk back and forth and coordinate.




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  2. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Not a plot spoiler in any way, but putting a Bloodline spoiler tag anyway:
    Bloodline briefly mentions the events on Vrogas Vas from Marvel's Vader Down as part of Leia's recollections of her encounters with Vader.
     
  3. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Another one, but this time something from a book showing up in a comic, the Poe series in this case:
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  4. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Yes! That same issue also has an explicit call-out box inviting you to see 'Before The Awakening' to read up on some of Poe's adventures alluded to by Phasma in this issue.
     
  5. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    speaking of BTA and Poe Dameron comic. i noticed there is a discrepancy in PD #1 of Poe not knowing who Lor San Tekka is but in Before the Awakening, he finds out who he is.
     
  6. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Here's our first Animation - Live Action crossover. Saw Gerrera. A character picked from TCW because he fit the character needed for the Rogue One story. This is pretty huge.
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  7. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Are they going to give the actor green contact lenses for the movie?
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Although we now know the character was created for the live action series first before his backstory was inserted into TCW, so while it's definitely cool to see an animated character make the jump, we still haven't gone all the way to having a character specifically created for animation making the jump to a film.
     
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  9. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Well I dunno, I might quibble with the extent to which he was "created" for Underworld. IIRC the concept could have been nothing more than "Rebel extremist" who then became Saw specifically when they decided to use him in TCW.
     
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  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I thought the statement was that Lucas specifically decided to add his background into TCW after the character was developed for Underworld?
     
  11. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    The concept of Saw was developed as part of the ongoing Underworld story, but he was first fully designed, cast, and given a voice as the backstory for that element. IE, the backstory in TCW become more developed and concrete than the planned end result. We meet Saw in TCW as the first fully-formed version of that character. And then, with Rogue One, LSG picked this already-existing character who fit plans for the movie. He wasn't seeded in TCW because of Rogue One - he was picked for Rogue One because of his characterization and appearance and realization in TCW.
     
  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh no, I get that. I mean that he was seeded in TCW for Underworld. So he was always intended to be a character that would make the jump to live action in some form- it just got kicked down the road until they decided to pick him up in Rogue One because he was a match.
     
  13. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I'm saying that them having a rough sense of the type of character Saw would be isn't the same as having already developed him into Saw. If he was an actual named character in the scripts they wrote, different story--but I don't know if that's the case.
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The impression I got from Pablo's comments was the character was formed for Underworld (which would track, given the number of scripts supposedly completed and that TCW S5 was probably in production around the time Underworld's scripts were being written).

    I mean, it would be odd for Lucas to be adding backstory into TCW for a character they hadn't formed yet, right?
     
  15. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Hairs are being split. Point is, when a new movie went into production without GL, and the plot called for an extreme revolutionary, they drew from a character who had only been previously realized in Animation. The character was first presented as someone not in live action, and that character was not created specifically for this new film. An animated character is given a live action actor for the first time. That's the point, technicalities aside.
     
  16. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    [​IMG]

    FIGHT ME
     
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  17. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    And that's fantastic. I'm just saying there's a difference between "GL character that was intended to go live action but only got to animation" being utilized is different than, say, Sloane, Katarn or even Rex- characters who were not introduced with the intent of them going live action- being utilized.

    Basically on the scale of ten things this is an 8 or 9- almost all the way.

    Regardless it's cool. :)
     
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  18. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Halfway through Life Debt, and oh my goodness, so many connections from everywhere. Clone Wars. Rebels. Servants of the Empire. Star Wars and Darth Vader and Princess Leia comics. TFA. Just keeps coming. All solid.
     
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  19. SensationalSean

    SensationalSean Jedi Master star 3

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    Yeah, Life Debt is a gold mine of references to other material. Wendig knits them in so well!
     
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  20. Cynda

    Cynda Jedi Master star 4

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    How much is too much? In your opinion.
     
  21. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    This amount is certainly not too much, and definitely not in the way it's presented. It all ... makes perfect sense in the context. It doesn't seem like Chuck was like, "Hey, where can I make a random connection?" - it seems like an organic flowing of the world, references that WOULD naturally be there, and would have been stranger if they hadn't IN those contexts. There's nothing there, so far that I've read, that doesn't belong. I've read overindulgent stuff easily labeled "continuity porn" - but this seems to be the perfect execution of the ideal - exciting for those who notice them without seeming to be too much of OOC wink-wink-nudge-nudges.

    This is continuity executed superbly.
     
  22. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Ooh. Just came across a great bridge in LD between Lost Stars and Bloodline.
     
  23. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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  24. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    We see Yendor going from where we first met him in Lost Stars to preparing to be in the role we see him in during Bloodline :)
     
  25. SensationalSean

    SensationalSean Jedi Master star 3

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    I was about halfway through that chapter when the Bloodline connection clicked, my mind was then blown.