The Mod Squad Update Experience: Are You Experienced? (August 19-25)

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Son of the Suns, Aug 25, 2002.

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  1. deltron_zero Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Feb 1, 2002
    star 6
    I would just like to say that if one member is allowed the flame and slander another member publicly, than that member should be allowed to defend themselves publicly.

    However, I of course do not agree with this policy. If the original poster's flame would have been removed, and the original poster banned or warned this whole situation could have been avoided.

    EDIT: i'm all flustered right now, sorry for the double post...

    and the three typo edits :p
  2. citizen-tom Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 20, 2002
    star 5
    I am with deltron_zero on that.
  3. Yodave27 Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Feb 2, 2001
    star 4
    Really? And here I thought you and the rest of the Drama Club were just here to flame us all, decide who can (as you so eloquently put it) "eat [your] ****," and then pat each other on the back for a job well done.

    Ok, if anyone here has brought the drama, it's you. So far you've hijacked this thread twice with stuff that should have been done on PM. So if anyone here is guilty of bringing drama into a situation where none existed, it's you.

    Now, back on topic.

    EDIT: spelling
  4. citizen-tom Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 20, 2002
    star 5
    Ok, if anyone here has brought the drama, it's you. So far you've hijaced this thread twice with stuff that should have been done on PM. So if anyone here is gultiy of bringing drama into a situation where none existed, it's you.

    Now, back on topic.


    Amen.
  5. Gay-LenKenobi Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Sep 20, 2000
    star 5
    Things were directed at me publicly that I will address publically.

    The fact that I have never once created a list of people who can 'eat my ****,' nor have I ever associated myself with a group that regularly harasses JC members in chatrooms so they can't be punished says plenty about my character. I know she and the rest of that group aren't to be trusted. The group has made direct attacks on myself and those close to me. Kerr her self has found ways to toss snide comments my direction. She learned from the best how to dance along the line between baiting and flaming. Assuming I have a personal vedetta against you, however, gives you too much credit.


    I posted here when I saw it. I don't keep up with the BB house, so I had no clue you were there. Unless you want to accuse me of conspiring with epic to get you in the house so I could post lies (that you just admited to) while you were there.

    Or maybe I just conspire with mods to get my banner up. Oops, that didn't work. Or maybe I conspire to become a mod myself... errr ... gee, not a mod. Guess that plan didn't work either. Well, shucks, I just ain't too good at teh conspirin'. You are grasping at straws to deflect attention from what you did.

    Anything else I have to say will be limited to PMs.

    EDIT: They called themselves the Drama Club. It was the name of their first secret board before it was discovered. I never said I wasn't stirring up trouble.
  6. citizen-tom Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 20, 2002
    star 5
    Gay-len--psssssssssssst, lets say this together now: Privaaaaate Messssaaages.

  7. Grilled-Sarlacc Former Head Admin

    Member Since:
    Jul 19, 2001
    star 6
    You see? You've gone and done it. This thread has made Dooku upset. I hope you're satisfied.

    [image=http://www.sgtfretsurfer.com/Grilled-Sarlacc/bad_ass.jpg]
  8. deltron_zero Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Feb 1, 2002
    star 6
    The fact that you haven't been banned from the Jedi Council for flaming and slandering one of it's most loving and respected members... the fact that your post wasn't even removed, is all the proof I need that you have mods on your side Gay-Len.
  9. Carter-TFN Ex-Staff, Admin Emeritus

    Member Since:
    May 24, 2001
    star 4
    Gay-Len had her chance to reply. Gay-Len and Kerr_Plunk, further posts of this nature between the two of you here will be deleted.
  10. citizen-tom Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 20, 2002
    star 5
    Throw in posting after an administrator and a manager both said take it else where and I agree with deltron again.
  11. Yodave27 Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Feb 2, 2001
    star 4
    Ok, I'll attempt to steer this topic back on course....

    I have a question to the mods. What exactly are you discussing about the improvements to JCC? Specifically, the seemingly double-standard for spam that these "social threads" create.
  12. KitFist0 Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Nov 10, 2001
    star 4
    Why weren't they (Deltron, Kerr_plunk and Gay-Len) all banned ? They all flamed. Hello mods wake up !

    Nothing personnally to any of you.

    [face_plain]
  13. Liz Skywalker Ex-Mod

    Member Since:
    Jun 13, 2000
    star 6
    What exactly are you discussing about the improvements to JCC? Specifically, the seemingly double-standard for spam that these "social threads" create.


    Specifically? Well, I misposted in there a post I meant to post in another mod squad thread and everyone had a good laugh about it... :p

    blackly, though, we have discussion going on about the forum header, about which social threads should stay, how many social threads should there be, how a member would go about with making a new social thread, solidifying a day on which we're going to finish discussing and submit it to the AC. We're also discussing "+1" posts, posts of the "where's a mod this thread needs locking" variety, and saying happy birthday to your friends and relations who are not on the JC. Good?
  14. citizen-tom Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 20, 2002
    star 5
    The BYS is safe, right?
  15. GriffZ Manager Emeritus

    Member Since:
    May 27, 2001
    star 6

    I was just about to delete it, actually.

  16. Liz Skywalker Ex-Mod

    Member Since:
    Jun 13, 2000
    star 6
    well, we've already moved it twice and it has a good fanbase and hasn't killed the JCC yet. It's a major social thread and I see no good reason to nix it.



    edit: shh, Griff, you were supposed to let me do it! :p
  17. Yodave27 Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Feb 2, 2001
    star 4
    blackly, though, we have discussion going on about the forum header, about which social threads should stay, how many social threads should there be, how a member would go about with making a new social thread, solidifying a day on which we're going to finish discussing and submit it to the AC. We're also discussing "+1" posts, posts of the "where's a mod this thread needs locking" variety, and saying happy birthday to your friends and relations who are not on the JC. Good?

    [sarcasm on]

    Nah. Nothing the mods do will ever satisfy my need for drama!!!11!!!!11!!!!1!11

    [saracsm off]

    Yeah that seems like a nice list. Although the "+1" and "where's the mod" posts are forum wide problems., not just JCC.
  18. Darth_Dagsy Manager Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Nov 18, 2000
    star 6
    about which social threads should stay, how many social threads should there be, how a member would go about with making a new social thread,

    Surely the discussions would have to include changes to the structure of the remaining social threads?

    If I took 5 friends and went into, say, the Lightsiders thread, and we started chatting away to each other, without a care in the world, this would not be well accepted.

    Why? Because my friends and I arent Lightsiders. It isnt our thread to go and post willy-nilly.

    These social threads arent simply places for everyone to go and socialise. They are threads with the use primarily for the members. These are not true social threads, but rather are threads for the use of certain cliques.

    Has anyone thought that part of the reason there are so many social threads is because each one is somewhat exclusive? If social threads were not allowed to be exclusive, and anyone could socialise in any threads to their hearts content, then there wouldnt be so many social threads?

    So long as people see others with their little groups, then they will want their own.

    Any social thread for a group with membership is not a true social thread.

    I think, therefore, that along with rationalising the numbers of social threads, changes need to be made to the structure of these social threads. Make them pure social threads where anyone can come and socialise with anyone else.

    No membership required. If people want to be members of exclusive groups, they can have their EZBoards.

    But what do I know? I dont belong to a social group here. That makes my opinion irrelevant to the administration.

    After all, how many members of the administration arent a part of a social group/JC spin-off group?

    Seems to me that the ones that call all the shots are the ones that are strongly attached to groups that might compromise their positions.
    After all, 2 of the 3 JCC mods are Dark Lords, some of the non-JCC mods are Dark Lords....what are the chances that this group will escape from any policy changes completely untouched?

    Seems to me that those that have divided loyalty are running the show.

    Seems to me, those without divided loyalty dont get a say.
  19. DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Nov 8, 2000
    star 6
    After all, 2 or the 3 JCC mods are Dark Lords, some of the non-JCC mods are Dark Lords....what are the chances that this group will escape from any policy changes completely untouched?"

    So are you calling me a biased moderator?
    Do you actually have the gall and the balls to say it?
    Step up Dagsy, have the courage of your convictions and tell me I'm biased.

    [face_plain]
  20. HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania

    Member Since:
    Oct 23, 2001
    star 6
    Dagsy, as I said before, with your proposed "5 social threads" system, why would you need to post in any more than one social thread? Let us keep the Light Side as a club, it isn't meant to be a chat room anyway, a problem which I am currently trying to address.
  21. Darth_Dagsy Manager Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Nov 18, 2000
    star 6
    Hawk...why leave one club untouched but not another? Isnt that just saying there are different rules for different clubs?

    DA, I am airing my thoughts and fears about possible future policies.

    Those of us here in the public cant judge what each individual moderator contributes to the policies. I cant know what you as an individual will be contributing to the discussion.

    I'll wait to see how the policies turn out before I make my final judgements. As a moderator, you will bear the brunt of your colleagues decisions.

    You had better hope that they are all as unbiased as I believe you are. You had better make sure that no groups are treated better than others. If they are, I will be calling all mods biased.

    I'll leave you with a comment JMT in this thread made back in March:
    I do not believe that eliminating the social threads is a solution to the problem, because I really do not see them as part of the problem....
    So overall, if you eliminate social threads in the JCC, then you must eliminate them all on principle. Then you would be creating a situation where users are no longer allowed to socialize with one another, only to discuss "topics," and I seriously believe that will determent the comradery between users


    No special rules. I hope this still stands.

    EDIT: Markup codes
  22. DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Nov 8, 2000
    star 6
    All I can say is that the proof will be in pudding.

    Until then, I suggest we let this issue lie.
    No more hostility or name calling or threats or nastiness or derision or disrespect on either side of this ridiculous "fence" that exists for no bloody good reason between the mod and the user.

    At least.....not until after the policies are released ;)
  23. HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania

    Member Since:
    Oct 23, 2001
    star 6
    As it stands, it seems out of the five social threads, three of them would be club-type threads. These would be the BYS, Light Side and Dark Lords. The other two would NOT be clubs, and would allow anyone to talk as much as they want in there. Now, since social threads are so redundant, why would you need to post in any more than one?


    Also, like I said earlier, the Light Side/Dark Lords threads are NOT meant to be chat rooms, despite recent activity in them to the contrary. Hopefully they will return to their original purposes soon.
  24. epic Ex Mod / RSA

    Member Since:
    Jul 4, 1999
    star 7
    I had a club once. THE SECRET RENEGADE MILITARY EMPIRE. Yeh, that baby rawked. So what if we were a club? That we posted in our "club" thread? Big deal. If people wanted to join in, they could. The whole club/social thread thing is being blown way out of proportion -- are they really that big of a deal? They've always existed in Community, and I don't see how removing them, or limiting them, or whatever, is going to help Community and make it more fun overall. The people who use these threads enjoy them -- isn't that enough?
  25. Fire_Ice_Death Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Feb 15, 2001
    star 7
    I'm with epic on that sentiment. :p Basically because my own little thing in the EUC is partially social/club/nonsense. Sorry I haven't piped in before now.
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