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Discussion in 'Communications' started by GenOochy, Apr 11, 2004.

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  1. TitaniumBender

    TitaniumBender Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What is on the flag which is infinitely more visible and more of a symbol than currency.

    oooh dissed
     
  2. mac-nut

    mac-nut Jedi Knight star 5

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    oh, I do so enjoy almost all the different banners, as the special banners are usually up for only a day or two. something new, something different. I can only suggest that if someone is so offended, it is ok to have a different point of view, but please don't rain on the rest of us; surely, you can put up with the rest of the 136,000 users and socks for a day or two. I have left to do other things in real life when a banner has been abit too much for me, and returned to regular lurking/posting once the banner was taken down and stored. and that's ok, too, as we all really need to keep one foot inside real life.... :) :D
     
  3. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    Yes, Santa and his reindeer symbolize Christmas, but they are in no way religious, nor do they promote religious ideals. The cross, Star of David, crescent moon, etc all do however, so that's where the line should be drawn. There's nothing wrong with a menora or dreidl (sp?), though.
     
  4. JediANGELA

    JediANGELA Jedi Master star 6

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    For the last time, there is no relgious signifigance to the menora or the driedel already! Nothing!
     
  5. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    I said they were OK.

    EDIT: Read the last sentence of the post more carefully.
     
  6. JediANGELA

    JediANGELA Jedi Master star 6

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    it wasnt directed at you. It was directed at everyone else who cant see it.
     
  7. jawamonkey

    jawamonkey Jedi Padawan star 4

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    you're crotchedy, startin a fight and then demanding it end when you get back into a corner of contradiction.

    anyways, as i said last year, we could have hermione bagwa on a cross with easter bunnies licking her toes. i even drew a picture.
     
  8. KitFist0

    KitFist0 Jedi Master star 4

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    I would find that insulting and I'm not even considered religious.
     
  9. Dingo

    Dingo Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    For the last time, there is no relgious signifigance to the menora or the driedel already! Nothing!

    To you, and in your opinion. As has been exhibited in this thread and similar threads dating back almost 3 years on the other hand, that view is not held by the general public and they are seen as iconoclastic for specific religions.

    But that aside, you've now run in full circle from wanting other religions recognised through the use of above symbols (which you were the first person in this thread to bring up) as they are related to specific religions, to now saying that they have no religious significance. Which then brings up why they should then be used in anything on banners since the complaint is that they are moving away from the secular towards religious, and biasing a particular religion.

    And also, the banner for Xmas 2003 did not have any religious icons on it. At the same time, to recognise all the various faiths that were celebrating events at that time of the year, there were multiple icons for each individual faith.

    Ultimately, what exactly is the problem here? Previously different faiths have been recognised, and if you read over this thread again, you will see that there was not going to be anything done for Easter (since it never has been over the last 5 years of this board's existance). It was only once someone brought it up and Raven saw a banner that he liked that shows a SW parody of the Easter Bunny that something appeared. All that is being celebrated by this banner is the absolute commercialistic nature of our society at the moment. I challenge anyone to find a tennable linkage between a fluffy white bunny hiding eggs for kids to find and the resurrection of a figure prominent in a specific lineage of religion.
     
  10. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, as an athiest, can I say I love both the Easter holidays and the Jaxxon banner.

    Good work all round.

     
  11. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    As someone who hates the precedent that this banner sets (e.g. the first non-secular holiday we've thrown up a banner for), let me clarify something:

    The Holiday Banner was a Holiday Banner.

    Period.

    There was a HUGE attempt to make it as secular and all-inclusive as possible, so anyone attempting to cast aspersions and negative feelings towards whomever it was who designed last year's Winter Holiday banner should stop right now. You'll only look silly. ;)

    So, since the Mod Squad has decided to allow any religious holiday banner that people feel the need to have banners for, I will begin work on my Yom Hashoah banners immediately.

    After all, there can never be too many Holocaust rememberance banners floating around.

    Right?
     
  12. Vader Fett

    Vader Fett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    For the last time, there is no relgious signifigance to the menora or the driedel already! Nothing!

    actually, most people associate those things with jewish traditions. sounds like a religious significance to me.
     
  13. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    actually, most people associate those things with jewish traditions. sounds like a religious significance to me.

    A moenorah IS a religious artifact, holding a place within the tradition and ritual of the holiday and the religious observance therein.

    The dreidel just teaches us how to gamble.

    ;)
     
  14. GriffZ

    GriffZ Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Once again you people should have listened to me. If you had just stuck Chewie up there like I said, this thread wouldn't have gotten past the second page.

    For shame, JC. For shame.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

     
  15. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    Easiest way to settle it:

    Thunderdome with Sharon and Arafat.

    Two men enter.
    One man leaves.

    WHO RUN BATRERTOWN?!?!?!?!
     
  16. GenOochy

    GenOochy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    [face_plain] :eek:

    WOW!

    My experiament started a religious fueled riot! :eek: Not my plan!

    Well, no that it has gone this far... Better join in....

    I think this whole 'miught offend someone' thing is so DUMB. Sorry, but it's true... Not everything has to be equal... Sometimes I wonder about people's intellect...

    [face_plain]

    Thing is I've noticed... You can bash Christians with jokes and stuff, but don't dare offend someone who isn't christian... Sorry for saying this(and if it's flaming, please edit me mods) if you think I'm mistaken... Your IQ is about zip. [face_plain]
     
  17. GriffZ

    GriffZ Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not everything has to be equal... Sometimes I wonder about people's intellect...
    So then you'd be perfectly content if next year the owners of the site put up a Ramadan banner with nary a Christian banner in sight?

    The point here is that this is a Star Wars message board. Keep it simple and leave religion out of the banners.

    (And for future reference, try not to take cheap shots at the people who disagree with you. Those condescending allusions to everyone being dumb have no place here.)

     
  18. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    The point here is that this is a Star Wars message board. Keep it simple and leave religion out of the banners.

    Which is exactly the point I brought up in MS after the Easter banner went up.

    So, duh, I agree with the former administration on this issue.
     
  19. BobTheGoon

    BobTheGoon Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So, since the Mod Squad has decided to allow any religious holiday banner that people feel the need to have banners for, I will begin work on my Yom Hashoah banners immediately.

    After all, there can never be too many Holocaust rememberance banners floating around


    I think you should do exactly that. I for one would welcome it, it we're allowing any old relgious holidays to be represented by site-wide banners.

    My stance on these types of matters is if you represent one, be prepared to represent ALL.

    Also, I believe Master Blaster runs Bartertown :)
     
  20. droideka27

    droideka27 Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Thing is I've noticed... You can bash Christians with jokes and stuff, but don't dare offend someone who isn't christian... Sorry for saying this(and if it's flaming, please edit me mods) if you think I'm mistaken... Your IQ is about zip.

    Uh, oh, I disagree, which means you think I have an IQ of...gasp!... zip!

    At any rate, I have offended MORE than my share of christians, both on the internet and in real life (RL occurs more often).

    As a matter of fact, I would go so far as to say I offend more christians than anyone else. For the record, I'm atheist.

    Most of the christians I have met are pretty good about taking good natured jokes... but SO ARE jews and others. It's like like christians are just magically tolerant. There are a few jews on this board that get all freak out over minor things, sure, but there are just as many christians, if not more, that get easily offended.

    For example, if I were to say "Jesus Christ, why are you people arguing about this?" The jesus christ part would get edited out. I'd have it happen numerous times. But I can say "Adonai! Why are youa rguing about this!" :p

    At any rate, no one gets along with everyone... someone is always offended more than another.

    And I dare to offend equally :cool:
     
  21. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    My stance on these types of matters is if you represent one, be prepared to represent ALL.

    My point exactly. :)

    Also, I believe Master Blaster runs Bartertown

    You, sir, are correct!
     
  22. Tabula Rasa

    Tabula Rasa Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As someone who hates the precedent that this banner sets (e.g. the first non-secular holiday we've thrown up a banner for)

    This banner was just a gag though. I mean really, it was Jaxxon, an alien rabbit like creature from the old school EU mags... what's so bad about that?

    The easter bunny is the most neutral character you could go with on easter... I thought it was harmless and cute. Things shouldn't always be approached so serious around here.
     
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