Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by AkashKedavra_93, Sep 4, 2012.
Now I start to wonder if any of the bonus arcs will also use an orchestra like the Fugitive arc.
Add me too to the ones who'd absolutely love an OST released. So many memorable themes!
Here's a mix of some of Kiner's better themes:
More Death Watch themes from A Friend in Need:
"Hey kid, you're late!"
Kiner was nothing short of masterful with his use of variations on his Ahsoka motif throughout the series.
Is there something wrong with me if I consider the music just generic unmemorable schlock?
Seriously, its mostly just cookie-cutter ominous chorus voices and some trumpets/drums.
I used to think that too, but then I realized it was just because it's usually mixed really low compared to everything else in the audio. It can't hit as hard when it's so quiet, and it's a lot harder to pick motifs out of what you're hearing.
A couple of themes from Eminence, which IMO had some fantastic Death Watch themes:
The beginning of Maul's unholy alliance with Death Watch
Maul, Savage, and Death Watch visit Black Sun on Mustafar
Yes there is something wrong with you
And I thought this thread was in danger of heading for Zombie status.
Hey all. Over 30 tracks from the series been posted on Kevin Kiner's website (www.kevinkiner.com). There's some good stuff there, particularly from the later seasons.
Here's hoping he releases Savage Opress's full theme soon. Would love that.
I completely agree about the fugitive arc. The final scene's music is the only bit I can recall from TCW, and the only one that's left a lasting impression on me the way some classic SW themes have. Bless whoever realized it was time to ditch the triumphant horns for that particular credit reel.
Yep. It's nice that Kiner took the time to post practically every theme from the Fugitive arc, which contained many of his best themes to date. In particular, the following tracks from that arc were standouts:
Wish Me Luck
Lightsaber Duel on Level 1315/Ahsoka is Captured
Duel in the Jedi Temple
Anakin Talks to Ahsoka (this is the final theme of The Wrong Jedi and easily Kiner's most prominent theme)
There were also many other tracks that caught my ear, including some with orchestral themes:
Indian Pop Source (upbeat music playing at Hondo's lair, reminds me of Indian bhangra music)
Anakin and Padme (neat theme, I don't remember which episode it played in, or whether it was from the movie)
A True Trooper (nice choral theme)
Your People Are Waiting (only track with a Death Watch theme here)
Everyone Fighting (nice chorus in the middle and the end)
Hamlet-Like Tragedy & Father's Sacrifice (from Mortis arc)
Calm Before the Storm
A Born Leader
Train Fight (great theme from Bounty)
Withdraw the Army (ending theme from Tipping Points, including Steela's funeral)
I do second
@The Shadow Emperor though. Kiner needs to release the Savage Opress theme and associated Death Watch/Maul themes, particularly from those from A Friend in Need and Eminence!
The best aspects of Kiner's music are when he has actual instruments to work with. But the show's music can sound "cheap" when he reverts back to synthy trumpets and the like. Can't really blame him for that though as you can't expect an orchestra for every single episode.
Holy smokes that finale music. It's genuinely great. I'm not sure if it's the use of the orchestra or the fact that the music track is cranked up to hearable levels or both. All I know is that music is a gigantic part of experiencing Star Wars for me.
Kevin Kiner, with this track you made me feel like I was watching Star Wars moreso than any other episodes in the series.
I know the music for the fugitive has been brought up a bunch times already in this thread, but I think it bears repeating.
The reprise of Ahsoka's theme at the end really does it for me.
It's masterful. The mournful stringsy version of Binary Sunset (which is itself always a somewhat emotion-stirring melody) mixing into the mournful, YoYo Ma style rendering of Ahsoka's theme. I mean the way her theme is done at the end really screams "THIS IS THE COMING-TO-AN-END OF SOMETHING BIG!!!" It feels like a requiem, both for Ahsoka as a character in the show and for the show itself. Which, of course, it was, with the show being cancelled at that point.
I was just re-watching Revenge, and there's a great musical cue that plays when Ventress lands on the planet where Maul and Savage are holding Obi-Wan. It's got the usual strings that go along with her character, mixed in with some unusual horns and percussion that make it feel a bit more epic. I had no memory of it until this moment, but I have to say I rather enjoyed it this time around.
From the other music thread.
At this point in human history, almost every piece of fiction is derivative in one form or another. Look at TCW itself- it drew a lot of inspiration from a variety of sources, especially the movies themselves. And Kiner's certainly not the only composer to emulate Williams, either. Every SW video game I've played has music in the style of Williams' SW stuff. It makes sense, really, that they'd want to compose thematically and structurally similar scores.
And whenever Kiner used movie themes, he often made pretty distinct variations that added his own personal touch to the music and made it his own. If that's derivative, then I'm all for it. Taking a good thing and using it slightly differently is hard to mess up, unless it's too obvious or just jarring. Half of the movie quotes inserted into the show- jarring. Some musical cues inserted into the show- a lot more natural.
I've also been re-directed from the other thread.
Just downloaded Kiner's 50+ tracks (http://www.kevinkiner.com/music/) and am having no luck organizing them chronologically. Was wondering if anyone else has tried to figure it out...
The episode numbers used in the file names are not the air date numbers, but the production codes. So "The Wrong Jedi" is listed as 5-11, and not as it aired 5-20. This applies to almost everything except:
CW_Battle_Of_Christophsis - Clone Wars movie (and the exact track from the OST)
CW_Rancor_Fight - Clone Wars movie (deleted scene)
CW_Slick_Fight_&_Clone_Theme.mp3 - while it sounds like the Chase Through Coruscant from AOTC, I think its from 1-16 (or production code 2-01) The Hidden Enemy
CW_Plokoon_Fights_Droids - don't know yet, from Nomad Droids maybe?
3 of the songs don't stream on his site: Luminara Ending, Padme's Speech, & Father's Sacrifice. Does anyone have them?