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Clone Wars The Music of TCW

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by AkashKedavra_93, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  2. fistofan1

    fistofan1 Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought this was really good:

     
  3. Jerran Tankarri

    Jerran Tankarri Jedi Padawan

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    Comparing music from TCW to John Williams is just unfair, but the main reason why I'm not such a big fan of Kiner is that others have been able to produce amazing material video games like the KOTOR series and MMO. His music is sort of in the background, but he does have some good tracks at certain times.
     
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  4. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is pretty epic. B)
     
  5. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If I click it, I'd better not have Duel of the Fates blasting out my speakers.
     
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  6. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    Did anyone else notice the film themes during the Anakin vs. Barriss duel? I recall hearing the Cloud City duel variation of the Imperial March plus the Emperor's theme.

    Sorry to be the voice of disagreement here, but I don't think that's particularly impressive. The editor has simply overlaid the Williams score alongside the Kiner score, not cutting or overpowering the Kiner score when necessary to bring the Williams score to the fore. It's also of dubious artistic merit to alter impressive Kiner scores like the Barrissoka duel theme.



    This guy I find the most impressive of the TCW YouTube rescorers. He judiciously overpowers the Kiner score with Williams when necessary. It doesn't hurt that this scene had fairly unmemorable Kiner scoring.



    Over here, he intersperses the Williams score with some memorable Kiner. Skip to the throne room scene, Fanboy.
     
  7. 07jonesj

    07jonesj Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Williams' score is too overpowering in most of those rescores. It takes away from the character moments that are happening. That said, I've always been an advocate of new, original music by Kiner instead of using full Williams' pieces. Each of Williams' pieces has a place in the films. In fact, when listening to the music, you can practically see the scene from the film to which it corresponds.

    Reusing it too much in TCW would diminish that effect, and I honestly think would make the show look a little amateurish if it's using Williams' music constantly.

    The show tends to play small cues of Williams' pieces and I like that just fine.
     
  8. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    This one is significantly more Kinerful. The Williams music is concentrated at the end.



    And, yes, I would like to hear Kiner keep doing his thing in TCW with original themes, but it's always interesting to hear/see what aspiring film editors think up.
     
  9. AkashKedavra_93

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  10. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    :_|:_|:_|

    The Fugitive arc had the best music of the series IMO. I also liked the track used in the finale trailer. I hope they release a TCW soundtrack album..
     
  11. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan

    Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    This season has had some of the best music on the show... Kiner stepped up his game. WHOOO HAAAH![face_dancing]
     
  12. BW2

    BW2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I need somebody who can composite good Star Wars Music. It would be for a fanmovie. Has anyone interest here and knowledge? Any hobby musicians here?
     
  13. CloneWarsRescored

    CloneWarsRescored Jedi Padawan star 2

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    You obviously haven't seen any of my videos. :p I'm currently working on rescoring's for Season 5, but I've been incredibly busy over the past couple of weeks.





     
  14. AkashKedavra_93

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  15. 07jonesj

    07jonesj Jedi Master star 4

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    Kiner really stepped up his game this season.
     
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  16. Circular Logic

    Circular Logic SWTV Interview Host star 4 VIP - Game Host

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    That track is so full of win. Love it.
     
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  17. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    dat melodrama. Well except there's character moments.
     
  18. Zer0

    Zer0 Jedi Knight star 3

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    They really need to release a CD with all the themes and stuff, it's glorious.
     
  19. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    So according to the commentary for The Wrong Jedi, Kiner used a full orchestra for the Ahsoka/fugitive arc, something they don't normally do. I'd say it certainly shows, and really helped these episodes remain memorable.

    Season 5 in general had lots of great music, some of the best of the series.
     
  20. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Didn't Dave also say something about Kevin Kiner doing that on his own dime? I could have sworn I heard that, but I may have been imagining things..
     
  21. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    He said that.

    He also said elsewhere the GL nixed using John William's music - wanting to save it for something memorable.
     
  22. RG4

    RG4 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I swear when I first heard that I was thinking. "This reminds me of Bastila's theme so much but WHY!"
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    I for one hear something akin to Bastila's theme but I can't place exactly where it sounds like it.
     
  23. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    [face_hypnotized] If he doesn't consider this memorable, I wonder what he has planned in the future.
     
  24. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    No, this last episode was where it was used (though to be sure, I'm not sure if he said "John Williams" music or was implying using a full orchestra LIKE John Williams).
     
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  25. RG4

    RG4 Jedi Knight star 2

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    If Lucas is saving John Williams score for something special it'd have to be extremely big. Series Finale perhaps, Ahsoka's death, possible,something else? Who knows.