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I'm not actually sure that Puzzlewood report was accurate either, but I could be wrong on that.

 

So, I've reorganized the Rey introduction, as I missed that she is first introduced after the scene of Finn vomiting. So I've split up the Rey on the desert planet stuff into: Meeting Rey, Rey meets Finn, and Escaping with the Falcon. Here's the update:

Information from Making Star Wars Blogs, Podcasts and TFN Forum Posts Regarding Details of The Force Awakens, Integrated and Reconciled with Official Information
Organized by Location and Sub-Organized by Key Sequence

Space: Opening Crawl

• Unknown. Likely something about 30 years having passed since the battle of Endor.

Desert Planet/ Space: Opening Sequence

• Exterior Night-Space/Savannah - A lightsaber tumbles through space, crashes towards the ground.
• Exterior Day-Savannah - Lightsaber lands – dawn into day – a strange hand appears (seemingly picking up the lightsaber).
• Exterior Night- Outskirts of Village - BB-8 is troubled by something coming and hurries off.
• Exterior Night – The Village - BB-8 pushes towards the vicarage.
• Interior-Night – The Village Vicarage - Vicar hands over the lightsaber. Poe [Rebel pilot] is grateful, BB-8 rolls in.
• Exterior Night – The Village Vicarage - Poe sees Imperial Transports approach. Vicar tells Poe to go.
• Exterior Night – Village - Poe and BB-8 rush through the village as residents prepare for battle.
• Exterior Night – Rise near village/X-wing - Poe gets his ride ready, BB-8 too. Poe sends message.
• INT NIGHT IMPERIAL TROOP LANDER - Stormtroopers wait in cramped silence, Finn is out of sync.
• Exterior – Night – Village - Imperial Transports land; Stormtroopers get into disagreement with villagers.
• Interior – Night Village - Stormtrooper Transport - Finn and Stormtroopers leave the transport under fire.
• Exterior – Night The Village - Finn’s buddy is not well. He leaves a mark on Finn. (Note concept art depicts the mark as blood from a wound–the friend touches Finn’s helmeted face, leaving three blood marks on it.)
• Exterior – Night Rise Near near village/X-wing - Poe sends message, sees another Imperial arrive.
• Exterior – Night – The Village - A huge Imperial shuttle lands beside the Stromtrooper transports.
• Exterior – Night – The Village - Vicar watches Flamethrower Stormtroopers. Finn spares a villager. Kylo Ren arrives.
• Exterior – Night Village/X-wing - Poe watches Kylo Ren’s arrival from a distance.
• Exterior – Night The Village Vicarage - Kylo Ren confronts the Vicar.
• Exterior – Night The Village/X-wing - Poe watches the confrontation and BB-8 wants to get moving.
• Exterior – Night- The Village Vicarage - Kylo Ren out is out of patience, says “goodbye” to the Vicar.
• Exterior – Night – Rise Near Village/X-wing - Poe sees sudden end, hides lightsaber in BB-8. They go their separate ways.
• Exterior – Night – Village/X-wing - Stormtroopers make a mess of Poe’s X-wing.
• Exterior – Night – Outskirts of Village (Desert Location) - BB-8 watches as Stormtroopers depart, huge fireball.
• Exterior – Night – Outskirts of the Village - BB-8 watches as Stormtroopers destroy Poe’s ride (backlot) – with flamethrowers
• CG Exterior – Night - Star Destroyer in the Distance Imperial Troop Transporters and Kylo Ren’s shuttle head for the Star Destroyer.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer Hanger Bay - Poe enters the Hanger Bay, dazed. Finn exits his transport.
• Interior Night Imperial Troop Transport - Finn takes off his helmet, vomits. Superior wants to see him.

Desert Planet: Meeting Rey

• Rey is introduced while scavenging the innards of a huge Star Destroyer that has crashed on the planet’s surface
• Rey grabs her salvage and heads out
• EXT DAY STAR DESTROYER – GARBAGE CHUTE – DUNES - Rey slides down dune, climbs onto her speeder
• In a rather evocative shot, she rides her speeder into the setting sun.

Desert Planet/Space: Escaping the Star Destroyer

• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Frightening (Torture/Interrogation?) Room: Kylo Ren chats with Poe, confident he will get what he wants.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Kylo Ren reveals to The General (Domhnall Gleeson) that he is looking for a speciifc droid.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Hallway - A Stormtrooper leads Poe down a corridor.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Hanger Bay - Finn dressed as a Stormtrooper leads Poe back to the Hanger Bay, they head for the TIE Fighter.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Finn and Poe squeeze into a TIE Fighter and start it up.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Balcony Hangar Bay - The Colonel sees Finn and Poe leaving the Star Destroyer without authorization.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Hallways - Stormtroopers rush toward the Hanger Bay pushing a weapons container.
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Hanger Bay - TIE Fighter rips cables away as it rises.
• Interior Night TIE Fighter - Finn and Poe flying, they start up the guns!
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Hanger Bay - Chaos in the hanger as the TIE Fighter lets rip!
• Interior Night TIE Fighter - Finn keeps firing as they exit the building!
• Interior Night Star Destroyer – Balcony over Hanger Bay - Windows blow out on the balcony!
• CG Exterior Night Star Destroyer – In the darkness the TIE Fighter exits the Star Destroyer at great speed.
• Interior Night Tie Fighter – They introduce themselves. Finn has a cunning idea.
• Poe and Finn escape in a TIE Fighter - They don’t get very far. They crash because the TIE is hit by blasts from the Star Destroyer.
• Poe is unconscious at the controls.
• Finn has to get out.
• It appears he ejects.
• Finn observes the TIE disappear over the horizon of the desert planet’s dunes.
• After a brief moment we see an explosion.
• Finn passes out.
• Finn wakes.
• Finn searches for the TIE.
• He can’t get in.
• Finn walks alone towards the settlement and puts on some of Poe’s clothes.
• The General and Captain Phasma [Gwendoline Christie] view Finn’s hologram (not clear that this happens here)

Desert Planet: Rey meets Finn

• Rey eats dinner alone.
• BB-8 needs rescuing and Rey answers his call for help.
• Rey and BB-8 head for Salvage Station.
• EXT DAY SALVAGE STATION - Rey arrives at the Salvage Station. Unloads her heavy stuff.
• She tries to sell BB-8, but when the deal falls through after some haggling she reluctantly decides to keep him
• Rey meets Finn at the salvage station, she distrusts him.
• Finn is able to talk her into starting to trust him (that seems to be his skill).
• When the Stormtroopers attack them, they are thrown together to survive the ordeal.

Desert Planet: Escaping with the Falcon

• Finn and Rey steal the Falcon.
• TIEs are in hot pursuit of the Falcon as it rockets away from the salvage station.
• The Falcon is chased by TIE Fighters and we apparently move by some familiar landmarks (from THIS film, not previous ones)
• Rey and BB-8 pilot the ship. Finn gets on the Falcon’s turret.
• There’s a lot of banter between the two and to an extent they don’t seem to really know what they’re doing.
• As TIEs shoot at the Falcon, Rey has to ask Finn if he plans on “answering back.”
• EXT DAY CRASHED STAR DESTROYER – DUNES (IMAX) Aerial plates - Millennium Falcon banks hard, upside down and swoops.
• To save their skins, Rey pilots them into the insides of the giant crashed Star Destroyer she was scavenging from during her introduction sequence.
• The Falcon and the TIEs “slalom” around debris and the insides of the downed ship, eventually losing their pursuers.
• Finn gets those guns working and fires on the TIE Fighters in pursuit.
• Cut to Kylo Ren, alone in his “padded room,” talking to himself (or a burned Darth Vader helmet) on a Star Destroyer.
• Kylo Ren may talk about the saber and/or his true plans at this point (speculation)
• Cut back to Rey and Finn
• Finn compliments Rey (probably on her fast flying) and Rey figures out that Finn is lying about what he appears to be
• Falcon rockets into space

Giant Freighter/ Space: Kids Meet Han and Chewie

• Falcon ends up being swallowed by a huge freighter in space
• Han is there to meet the kids with Chewbacca.
• Han appears to take the kids onto the ship and talk to them.
• He notices something he doesn’t like and orders them off his ship until Finn convinces Han to let them stay.
• Something happens with the chessboard and they hear a noise
• Han checks the video screen.
• A gang is there!
• Han explains the cargo (creature(s) without description).
• Han hides the kids in the cargo storage.
• The gang are divided into two groups codenamed “Mods” and “Rockers” on set.
• The mods and rockers enter the ship.
• The kids pull the fuse in the Falcon.
• It’s a good distraction.
• The cargo is released.
• Fin is dragged away by cargo and saved by Rey.
• Hell breaks loose.
• Chewbacca is wounded in the fight
• Finn aids a wounded Chewbacca, which helps earn Han’s (and perhaps Rey’s) trust in him
• Rey fights off the gang by herself.
• Falcon has issues.
• Rey fixes Falcon impressing Han.
• Some of the cargo splatters on the Falcon windshield as they race out.

Exotic City Planet: Hanging at Rose's Pub

• Han, Chewbacca, Rey, Finn and BB-8 fly to the Exotic City Planet (unclear why they make this decision)
• They go to “Rose’s pub.” Rose is an alien who seems to have force powers of some kind. In particular, she seems capable of sharing visions of the past.
• Interior Day Roses’s Pub – There is a secret underground chamber and Rose begins her tale to Han, Rey, and Finn. They hold hands.
• Flashback: Interior Night at Academy – Dead bodies are on the ground. Luke turns up.
• Flashback: Exterior Dusk at the Academy – It is noted it is peaceful now. Artoo-Detoo is saddened as his master departs.
• Flashback: Exterior Day at the Savannah – A hand that takes the sword at the start of the film is revealed to be Naka’s hand.
• Flashback: Exterior on the Savannah – A peasant’s hovel where the peasant drops the sword, starts a fire, panics and then returns.
• Flashback: Exterior Desert – Local trader is seen leaving. (presumably then cuts to Finn and Rey’s faces as the story unfolds).
• Flashback: Exterior Day Desert – Local trader makes a sale to a wealthy man.
• Flashback: Exterior Night Battlefield – Fierce battle! Sword is being use by the CLAN against THE SEVEN.
• Flashback: Exterior Night: the last man is down and Kylo Ren approaches Rey!
• Flashback: THE SEVEN are looting and we see Rose in the foreground taking “the object.”
• Interior Day Roses’s Pub: In the underground chamber, Rose presents the blue lightsaber and Rey is revolted by it while Finn is attracted to it.
• Interior Day Roses’s Pub: Rey moves past aliens in an uproar as she leaves the establishment.
• Interior Day Roses’s Pub: Courtyard: Rey runs away from the castle.
• Exterior Day: Woods near Roses’s pub: Rey runs into the woods.
• Interior Day Roses’s Pub: Rose now knows why the saber “came to her.”
• Leia appears to send an emissary to Rose’s planet (rumored to be named Kor Sella). She has 3-4 scenes at most.
• It appears the emissary is on a secret mission of her own.
• Exterior Day: Woods near Roses’s pub: BB-8 finds Rey but suddenly the villains are overhead.
• · Uber tells Kylo “don’t get sentimental.” This is allegedly due to Kylo’s reluctance to fire the superweapon at the Castle and Pub.
• Interior Day Roses’ Pub: In the corridors underneath the pub they notice Rey and BB-8 are missing as massive shaking begins.
• Exterior Roses’ Pub Plate Shot: From Rey’s point of view we see the destruction of the Castle.
• Exterior Day Rose’s Pub: From Rey’s Point of view we see Rose’s pub is chaotic.
• Exterior Day Woods Near Rose’s Pub: From Rey’s perspective we see Rose’s Pub ruined.
• Leia’s emissary is at Rose’s Pub when the Empire’s new “Catapult” weapon levels the pub and the castle next to it.
• The emissary is killed by this.
• Kylo Ren arrives with Stormtroopers in tow.
• Note: This pertains to: “Interior Day: Roses’ Pub hallways beneath the pub, Rose “uses her special skills” to defeat Stormtroopers.
• A “black TIE” arrives and seems to “make all the difference” in driving away the Imperials (this may or may not be flown by Poe Dameron, and may end up being a black X-wing).
• [Old Spoiler] Rey is seemingly taken captive by Captain Phasma (the Chrome Stormtrooper) and taken to Kylo Ren.
• The death of Leia’s emissary’s compels Leia (with See-Threepio in tow) to arrive at Rose’s planet.
• Han Solo and Leia meet for the first time in the film. It is described as “awkward.”

The Rebel Base Planet: Preparing for Final Conflict

• Leia appears to still be a prominent leader of the Rebel Alliance (described as “Queen” on the main cast list).
• Leia tells Rebel pilot Poe Dameron his squadron is all that survived a certain event (not clear that this happens here). He reluctantly obeys her orders.
• Finn and Poe meet again
• Leia wants to know what Finn knows (presumably about the Empire’s secret weapon).
• In the Map Room of the Rebel Base, Leia has a secret “up her sleeve,” involving her own weapon called “The Sledgehammer” by the production.
• Without storyboards, “The Sledgehammer” is difficult to understand but appears to be a kamikaze-like craft capable of taking down Star Destroyer sized spacecrafts.
• Leia is proud of this weapon.
• Rose tells Leia she thinks the sword found inside BB-8 should be with Finn so Leia hands the blue lightsaber over to him.
• Leia and Han still argue.
• The last thing Han says to Leia before he leaves for the final mission is “I’ll hurry back.”

The Evil Castle Planet: Conflict with Kylo Ren

• Rey brought to Kylo Ren by Captain Phasma and interrogated (not clear that this happens here). Rey is defiant.
• There may be a Jedi mind trick “exchange” between Kylo and Rey (not clear that this happens here).
• [Old spoiler] Kylo addresses Rey by name and she may reply: “You’ll never be as powerful as Darth Vader!”
• [Old spoiler] The line is cutting to the power hungry monster and she’s taken away. The sequence is supposedly very reminiscent to Princess Leia being imprisoned by Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin where she trash talks their foul stench.
• Han, Chewie and Finn fly to the Evil Castle Planet
• Han Solo encourages Finn (described as a pep talk) to take the lightsaber and use it to destroy the generator for the Imperial superweapon
• Finn runs off to do so
• Finn seems to rescue Rey from captivity (not clear if this happens here).
• Han Solo is hiding.
• He decides to reveal himself to Kylo Ren.
• Finn, Rey, Chewbacca and BB-8 stop in their tracks.
• They watch as Han Solo confronts Kylo Ren.
• When Kylo and Han meet, it cuts to Leia who feels “a disturbance in the Force” so to speak.
• There is no indication Leia is a Jedi or started upon that path with her brother.
• Kylo Ren silences the conversation with Han Solo forever. (i.e. he seems to kill Han)
• Chewbacca lets out of a barrage of angry roars and laser blasts.
• Kylo Ren flees the scene.
• Explosions.
• Stormtroopers file in and Finn and Rey are forced to flee.
• More explosions.
• BB-8 and Chewbacca flee to the Falcon.
• EXT NIGHT EVIL CASTLE – COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE (SNOW) Kylo Ren moves purposefully towards the forest.
• Finn confronts Kylo Ren, and seems to be bested
• Rey arrives, and it seems that Finn tosses her the lightsaber
• Rey and Finn confront Kylo Ren together, and it seems Kylo may get the best of them
• The mountainside below their feet seems to collapse
• The Millennium Falcon swoops in to pick up Rey and Finn

The Evil Castle Planet/Space and Land: Rebel-Imperial Conflict

• In the end battle, BB-8 assists Poe as they jump from hyperspace to attack land-based targets
• INT EVE POE X-WING FIGHTER COCKPIT - Poe calls in enemy gunfire locations.
• PL EXT DAY EVIL CASTLE – SURROUNDINGS - Plates required for X-Wings heading for the prize, some crash.
• The General [Imperial] orders the firing of the superweapon on the rebels
• The General’s subordinates refuse because the rebels are also aiming a superweapon at them
• The General appears to fire the superweapon himself
• The General appears to die in an explosion

The Rebel Base Planet (incl. Medical Bay): Celebration, Mourning and Goodbyes

• The kids return back to the base as heroes
• We follow our main hero, Rey as she says goodbye to the important players in the film, Leia, Poe, and so on.
• Rey makes a special stop to say goodbye to Finn in the medical bay.
• Meanwhile BB-8, Artoo-Detoo, and See-Threepio decode a puzzle, seemingly revealing Luke’s location
• Leia is elated when it appears Luke has been found.
• Leia and Rey have a special goodbye in which she bids Rey “a fond farewell.”
• Rey, Chewbacca, and BB-8 then get into the Falcon and take off.
• Chewbacca playfully messes up Rey’s hair in an endearing gesture.
• They fly away to find Luke.

Island Planet: The Closing Sequence

• Rey, Chewbacca and BB-8 land on the planet
• Rey walks up the stone steps. She comes up to a figure and puts the lightsaber (which seemingly “belongs to him”) in his hand
• Its Luke Skywalker.
• The End.

 

that's some cool storyboards, I like it so far

 

I'm so glad we got fan storyboards of Finn puking, it makes all the difference

 

That was my favorite shot! But even if you weren't as inspired by it as I was, remember. It's the execution that counts.

 

Or maybe we don't find the scenes being *spoiled* very exciting and it has nothing to do with our "imaginations".

 

Yea, that was a generalization. Didn't mean to imply that about everyone. But scene execution, IMO, can completely erase what it looks like on paper. I mean, would anybody have guessed that "the fellowship runs down the stairs" would turn into that massive set piece in Fellowship of the Ring where they make their way down this enormous, crumbling staircase while orcs fire arrows at them?

I'm not asking for people to love the plot, as described. It seems pretty straightforward, and not much of a departure from what we saw in the OT. I'm just saying that we should be open to the possibility that the execution will be thrilling.

 

Interesting storyboards, but I doubt we're going to see "Imperial" officers look exactly the way they did 30 years ago. I mean, really? Can they not invent ANYTHING new for the so-called imperials?

And once again, it has been established that Kylo's mask will NOT look like Revan's. He has his own design which was given to us in other leaked pics.

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Exactly. Take the outline and use imagination to spruce it up. Then think that the crew and JJ will make it look better than what we can imagine. One can only hope that philosophy will work for TFA the way it so very well has worked for LOTR, HP, ST09, Avengers, GOTG and a host of others that have been visually exponentially better than what we can imagine.

For example, take the tumbling lightsaber. I vocally spoke out against it. But when I think about the fact that it may be the same situation as the fellowship running down the stairs, I realize there's hope-especially in the year 2015. Imagine there could be 50 different versions of how that could look based on what the BEST visual arts/computer graphics/CGI folks in the industry can conjure up. Then they take the best possible one that will add excitement (an absolute MUST for SW) and spruce that best one up even more.

 

It's just a dude's fan art. What he would like the scenes to be like, I imagine. Plus, storyboards are not the place for getting details like that right.

Though I would like to see some more Kylo Ren fan art with the helmet we expect him to wear...

 

I don't see why they would look that different, though.

 

All movies come down to execution. You can have the greatest script in history but if the acting and direction sucks it doesn't matter. A great example of that is the 1974 version of "The Great Gatsby". Francis Ford Coppola's script was supposedly a real masterpiece. But the studio hired a old school crotchy British director in Jack Clayton who absolutely soiled it making the movie tacky and worthless even though it had Robert Redford playing Jay (though Redford at the time was more worried about Watergate then the filming of the movie).

Therefore I will wait to see the movie on December 18th to give final judgement including the execution. I am not going to getting overexcited or dismissive about anything that comes in spoilers. I will let JJ's work speak for itself. I am just saying based off the rumors, the overall story arc to me is lacking imagination and pace. I also think there isn't a lot of emotion/substance in there either. Obviously we are not getting a full story or even facts at this point, just rumors hence why I do not put a lot of stock into it.

 

Like I implied with my last post, this guy has some decent stuff but there's nothing to say "wow, cool that's so awesome it gets me excited" because it doesn't instill excitement. There's nothing there that couldn't be drawn from old storyboard ideas from the other movies.

Now, if this guy is able to conjure up some storyboard drawings for the savannah scenes, Rose's pub, and the castle sequences including the duel? Then we can talk. But until then it moved me about as much or actually less than November's teaser did which wasn't much at all. The concept art leaked last October was MUCH more inspiring visually than anything we've seen thus far.

 

Wonder what this board will be like if all the spoilers created by MSW are in fact wrong / false. I hope for his their own sakes this stuff is legitimate. Otherwise

 

I think many will be happy, as they don´t like the direction of the spoilers.

 

I thought Poe was flying the TIE?

 

Otherwise we're gonna wear spooky halloween skeleton masks and what?

 

After reading all that it seems to me that chances are good that Han will be the main member of the big three to be featured in the first film. Luke will have a larger role in the second, and if he doesn't die a moderate to small part in the third, and poor Leia is going to get 3-4 scenes a film. Can't really say I'm thrilled with that, but otherwise it all sounds like the beginning of what should be another grand trilogy in the epic saga that is Star Wars. I'm quite optimistic even with some of the slightly disappointing aspects.

 

Does every section of Jedi Council Forums have their own list ?
Literature have their New Canon Timeline
TFA Spoilers Allowed have DarthLightlyBruise and his MSW Info list
and Star Wars TV has me and my TCW Lost Arcs List

 

Get sent to bed.........

 

I think some of the interpretations may be off. But, I would say, mechanically, he has most of the beats correct. Stuff like "they go to a place"/"This is what they do at the place."

 

Me too, maybe Mr Finn is of some use after all (although some of others already knew this)

 

Which is ironic considering that a vast majority REALLY liked the stuff from the "rumor dump" posted before the call sheet spoilers started coming in.

 

I must admit I was a fan of the tomb rumour.

 

Me too. I was very excited about it. Fandom is funny like that. You get excited about rumors that the general public has no idea about, and then you get disappointed when that stuff doesn't pan out. Damn you, JJ, for not following through on our favorite rumors!

 

Well, except one is a flag officer and the other is a Master Chief Petty officer....