Lit The NU Continuity Timeline/Source List

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  1. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    (Because I'm sure as hell not calling it the "LU"- I'm not dealing with toilet jokes for the next decade!)

    Though this will initially be limited, this list will no doubt expand rapidly as publishing programs and such ramp up over the next year (it would seem likely that more titles will likely be revealed at various cons in that timespan as well, for instance). And things like this are so much easier to track when you start from the ground level.

    Hopefully this will also be useful in directing folks to when the inevitable "whats EU and whats NU" questions arise as things become more and more foggier to the unitiated as NU content becomes more numerous while still sharing shelfspace with unrebranded Legends material.

    Though technically we don't know the exact dates of the films at this point, I'm going to operate under the assumption that those will remain unchanged until we're told otherwise- though I'm going to refrain from labeling them until we have something solid to report as far as the non-film/TCW material goes- I do want to include timeline dating eventually.

    Legend:
    (not to be confused with-oh, never mind)
    Film
    Television
    Novelization
    Novel
    Short Story
    Young Adult Novel
    Comic Book
    Comic Book Adaptation
    Video Game or Multimedia

    (Last Update: 7/27/14)
    NEW UNIVERSE SOURCE LIST:

    32 BBY/36 BBE
    -Episode I: The Phantom Menace
    -Episode I: The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks

    22 BBY/26 BBE
    -Episode II: Attack of the Clones
    -Episode II: Attack of the Clones by R.A. Salvatore
    -The Clone Wars 216: Cat and Mouse
    -The Clone Wars 116: The Hidden Enemy
    -The Clone Wars (001: The New Padawan, 002: Castle of Deception, 003: Castle of Doom, 004: Castle of Salvation)
    -The Clone Wars by Karen Traviss
    -The Clone Wars 301: Clone Cadets
    -The Clone Wars 303: Supply Lines
    -The Clone Wars 101: Ambush
    -The Clone Wars 102: Rising Malevolence
    -The Clone Wars 103: Shadow of Malevolence
    -The Clone Wars 104: Destroy Malevolence
    -The Clone Wars 105: Rookies
    -The Clone Wars 106: Downfall of a Droid
    -The Clone Wars 107: Duel of the Droids
    -The Clone Wars 108: Bombad Jedi
    -The Clone Wars 109: Cloak of Darkness
    -The Clone Wars 110: Lair of Grievous
    -The Clone Wars 111: Dooku Captured
    -The Clone Wars 112: The Gungan General
    -The Clone Wars 113: Jedi Crash
    -The Clone Wars 114: Defenders of Peace
    -The Clone Wars 115: Trespass
    -The Clone Wars 117: Blue Shadow Virus
    -The Clone Wars 118: Mystery of a Thousand Moons
    -The Clone Wars 119: Storm Over Ryloth
    -The Clone Wars 120: Innocents of Ryloth
    -The Clone Wars 121: Liberty of Ryloth
    -The Clone Wars 201: Holocron Heist
    -The Clone Wars 202: Cargo of Doom
    -The Clone Wars 203: Children of the Force
    -The Clone Wars 217: Bounty Hunters
    -The Clone Wars 218: The Zillo Beast
    -The Clone Wars 219: The Zillo Beast Strikes Back
    -The Clone Wars 204: Senate Spy
    -The Clone Wars 205: Landing at Point Rain
    -The Clone Wars 206: Weapons Factory
    -The Clone Wars 207: Legacy of Terror
    -The Clone Wars 208: Brain Invaders
    -The Clone Wars 209: Grievous Intrigue
    -The Clone Wars 210: The Deserter
    -The Clone Wars 211: Lightsaber Lost
    -The Clone Wars 212: The Mandalore Plot
    -The Clone Wars 213: Voyage of Temptation
    -The Clone Wars 214: Duchess of Mandalore
    -The Clone Wars 220: Death Trap
    -The Clone Wars 221: R2 Come Home
    -The Clone Wars 222 : Lethal Trackdown
    -The Clone Wars 305: Corruption
    -The Clone Wars 306: The Academy
    -The Clone Wars 307: Assassin
    -The Clone Wars 302: ARC Troopers
    -The Clone Wars 304: Sphere of Influence
    -The Clone Wars 308: Evil Plans
    -The Clone Wars 122: Hostage Crisis
    -The Clone Wars 309: Hunt for Ziro
    -The Clone Wars 310: Heroes on Both Sides
    -The Clone Wars 311: Pursuit of Peace
    -The Clone Wars 215: Senate Murders
    -The Clone Wars: Darth Maul Secrets Revealed (312: Nightsisters, 313: Monster, 314: Witches of the Mist)
    -The Clone Wars 315: Overlords
    -The Clone Wars 316: Altar of Mortis
    -The Clone Wars 317: Ghosts of Mortis
    -The Clone Wars 318: The Citadel
    -The Clone Wars 319: Counter Attack
    -The Clone Wars 320: Citadel Rescue
    -The Clone Wars 321: Padawan Lost
    -The Clone Wars 322: Wookiee Hunt
    -The Clone Wars 401: Water War
    -The Clone Wars 402: Gungan Attack
    -The Clone Wars 403: Prisoners
    -The Clone Wars 404: Shadow Warrior
    -The Clone Wars 405: Mercy Mission
    -The Clone Wars 406: Nomad Droids
    -The Clone Wars 407: Darkness on Umbara
    -The Clone Wars 408: The General
    -The Clone Wars 409: Plan of Dissent
    -The Clone Wars 410: Carnage of Krell
    -The Clone Wars 411: Kidnapped
    -The Clone Wars 412: Slaves of the Republic
    -The Clone Wars 413: Escape From Kadavo
    -The Clone Wars 414: A Friend In Need
    -The Clone Wars 415: Deception
    -The Clone Wars 416: Friends and Enemies
    -The Clone Wars 417: The Box
    -The Clone Wars 418: Crisis on Naboo
    -The Clone Wars 419: Massacre
    -The Clone Wars 420: Bounty
    -The Clone Wars 421: Brothers
    -The Clone Wars 422: Revenge
    -The Clone Wars 502: A War on Two Fronts
    -The Clone Wars 503: Front Runners
    -The Clone Wars 504: The Soft War
    -The Clone Wars 505: Tipping Points
    -The Clone Wars: Young Jedi (506: The Gathering, 507: A Test of Strength, 508: Bound for Rescue, 509: A Necessary Bond)
    -The Clone Wars 510: Secret Weapons
    -The Clone Wars 511: A Sunny Day in the Void
    -The Clone Wars 512: Missing in Action
    -The Clone Wars 513: Point of No Return
    -The Clone Wars 501: Revival
    -The Clone Wars 514: Eminence
    -The Clone Wars 515: Shades of Reason
    -The Clone Wars 516: The Lawless
    -The Clone Wars 517: Sabotage
    -The Clone Wars 518: The Jedi Who Knew Too Much
    -The Clone Wars 519: To Catch a Jedi
    -The Clone Wars 520: The Wrong Jedi
    -The Clone Wars 601: The Unknown
    -The Clone Wars 602: Conspiracy
    -The Clone Wars 603: Fugitive
    -The Clone Wars 604: Orders
    -The Clone Wars 605: An Old Friend
    -The Clone Wars 606: The Rise of Clovis
    -The Clone Wars 607: Crisis at the Heart
    -The Clone Wars 608: The Disappeared: Part I
    -The Clone Wars 609: The Disappeared: Part II
    -The Clone Wars 610: The Lost One
    -The Clone Wars 611: Voices
    -The Clone Wars 612: Destiny
    -The Clone Wars 613: Sacrifice
    -Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir by Jeremy Barlow and Juan Frigeri
    -The Clone Wars: Untitled Ventress vs Vos novel by Christie Golden

    19 BBY/23 BBE
    -Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
    -Episode III: Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover
    -Lords of the Sith by Paul S. Kemp

    5 BBY/9 BBE
    -A New Dawn by John Jackson Miller
    -Rebels: Ezra's Gamble by Pablo Hidalgo
    -Rebels: Season 1
    -Rebels: Servants of the Empire: Edge of the Galaxy by Jason Fry
    -Tarkin by James Luceno

    0 BBY/0 ABY/4 BBE
    -Episode IV: A New Hope
    -Star Wars by Alan Dean Foster
    -Star Wars/"Star Warvel" by Jason Aaron and John Cassaday
    -Darth Vader by Kieron Gillen and Salvador Larroca
    -Princess Leia by Mark Waid and Terry Dodson
    -Heir to the Jedi by Kevin Hearne

    3 ABY/1 BBE
    -Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
    -The Empire Strikes Back by Donald F. Glut

    4 ABY/0 BBE/0 ABE
    -Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
    -Return of the Jedi by James Kahn
    -Blade Squadron by David J. Williams and Mark S. Williams (Insider #149-150)

    39 ABY/35 ABE
    -Episode VII: Return on Investment
    -Episode VII Novelization
    -Episode VIII: Revenge of Market Saturation
    -Episode VIII Novelization
    -Episode IX: The Sixth Ending to Return of the King
    -Episode IX Novelization


    SPANS MULTIPLE ERAS
    -Battlefront (2015)


    TBD
    -Untitled Visceral Games Project
    -Untitled Spin-off Film #1
    -Untitled Spin-off Film #2
    -Untitled Spin-off Film #3


    REFERENCE CONTENT
    -Journeys: The Phantom Menace
    -Journeys: Attack of the Clones
    -Journeys: Revenge of the Sith
    -Journeys: A New Hope
    -Journeys: The Empire Strikes Back
    -Journeys: Return of the Jedi
    Last edited by The2ndQuest, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:59 PM
  2. Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost

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    Although it doesn't have any unique info, and is basically a picture book for five-year-olds, I'd assume that the Encyclopedia on starwars.com is a legit source of the "new canon." The only non-narrative one we have so far --- that is, if you're familiar with Wookieepedia, it would be the only thing from the new canon to go into a "Sources" rather than an "Appearances" section.

    Also you left out the original TCW film!
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  3. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Oops! I mentally conceptualize the TCW film as 4 episodes from Season 1 (because it makes the movie more bearable), which is why i forgot it- fixing now!
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  4. CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus

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    What took you so long?
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  5. Darth_Henning Force Ghost

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    May I propose that we continue to call the old EU the EU, and the new 'canon' EU the nEwU?
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  6. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Conflicted feelings. Long days at work. I also got sucked into a lot of Star Trek fan rendered videos on youtube, so that took up some time. Had to watch Cosmos and Game of Thrones. John Oliver's new HBO show is basically like getting an extra episode of The Daily Show every week. It added up.

    I'm operating under the assumption that the EU will still be the EU and that the NU, by being deemed absolute canon, isn't technically an EU, thus why it gets a new designation.If that changes by official statement, I'll revise the terms being used here.

    That's a curious case- I don't think we can judge that much yet- how they're approaching reference sources in general we haven't been given any indication of yet (what about that Wallace Imperial book that was announced, for example?), though if a detail or source becomes questionable canon, that could be a legit means of confirmation.
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  7. Jedi Princess Jedi Master

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    This is the list I made up for my own purposes. Due to the non-chronological nature of The Clone Wars' broadcasts, I listed each episode individually, according to the order provided by Leland Chee on Twitter and the Official Episode Guide by Jason Fry. For the sake of formatting, The Clone Wars film is included under its original episode titles: "The New Padawan," "Castle of Deception," "Castle of Doom," and "Castle of Salvation." The inter-trilogy titles are simply placed in alphabetical order for now, since we don't have firm dates on them.

    • Episode I: The Phantom Menace
    • Episode II: Attack of the Clones
    • The Clone Wars
      • “Cat and Mouse”
      • “The Hidden Enemy”
      • “The New Padawan”
      • “Castle of Deception”
      • “Castle of Doom”
      • “Castle of Salvation”
      • “Clone Cadets”
      • “Supply Lines”
      • “Ambush”
      • “Rising Malevolence”
      • “Shadow of Malevolence”
      • “Destroy Malevolence”
      • “Rookies”
      • “Downfall of a Droid”
      • “Duel of the Droids”
      • “Bombad Jedi”
      • “Cloak of Darkness”
      • “Lair of Grievous”
      • “Dooku Captured”
      • “The Gungan General”
      • “Jedi Crash”
      • “Defenders of Peace”
      • “Trespass”
      • “Blue Shadow Virus”
      • “Mystery of a Thousand Moons”
      • “Storm Over Ryloth”
      • “Innocents of Ryloth”
      • “Liberty of Ryloth”
      • “Holocron Heist”
      • “Cargo of Doom”
      • “Children of the Force”
      • “Bounty Hunters”
      • “The Zillo Beast”
      • “The Zillo Beast Strikes Back”
      • “Senate Spy”
      • “Landing at Point Rain”
      • “Weapons Factory”
      • “Legacy of Terror”
      • “Brain Invaders”
      • “Grievous Intrigue”
      • “The Deserter”
      • “Lightsaber Lost”
      • “The Mandalore Plot”
      • “Voyage of Temptation”
      • “Duchess of Mandalore”
      • “Death Trap”
      • “R2 Come Home”
      • “Lethal Trackdown”
      • “Corruption”
      • “The Academy”
      • “Assassin”
      • “ARC Troopers”
      • “Sphere of Influence”
      • “Evil Plans”
      • “Hostage Crisis”
      • “Hunt for Ziro”
      • “Heroes on Both Sides”
      • “Pursuit of Peace”
      • “Senate Murders”
      • “Nightsisters”
      • “Monster”
      • “Witches of the Mist”
      • “Overlords”
      • “Altar of Mortis”
      • “Ghosts of Mortis”
      • “The Citadel”
      • “Counter Attack”
      • “Citadel Rescue”
      • “Padawan Lost”
      • “Wookiee Hunt”
      • “Water War”
      • “Gungan Attack”
      • “Prisoners”
      • “Shadow Warrior”
      • “Mercy Mission”
      • “Nomad Droids”
      • “Darkness on Umbara”
      • “The General”
      • “Plan of Dissent”
      • “Carnage of Krell”
      • “Kidnapped”
      • “Slaves of the Republic”
      • “Escape From Kadavo”
      • “A Friend In Need”
      • “Deception”
      • “Friends and Enemies”
      • “The Box”
      • “Crisis on Naboo”
      • “Massacre”
      • “Bounty”
      • “Brothers”
      • “Revenge”
      • “A War on Two Fronts”
      • “Front Runners”
      • “The Soft War”
      • “Tipping Points”
      • “The Gathering”
      • “A Test of Strength”
      • “Bound for Rescue”
      • “A Necessary Bond”
      • “Secret Weapons”
      • “A Sunny Day in the Void”
      • “Missing in Action”
      • “Point of No Return”
      • “Revival”
      • “Eminence”
      • “Shades of Reason”
      • “The Lawless”
      • “Sabotage”
      • “The Jedi Who Knew Too Much”
      • “To Catch a Jedi”
      • “The Wrong Jedi”
      • “The Unknown”
      • “Conspiracy”
      • “Fugitive”
      • “Orders”
      • “An Old Friend”
      • “The Rise of Clovis”
      • “Crisis at the Heart”
      • “The Disappeared: Pt. I”
      • “The Disappeared: Pt. II”
      • “The Lost One”
      • “Voices”
      • “Destiny”
      • “Sacrifice”
    • Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir
    • Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
    • Lords of the Sith
    • A New Dawn
    • Rebels
    • Tarkin
    • Episode IV: A New Hope
    • Heir to the Jedi
    • Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
    • Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
    • Episode VII
    • Episode VIII
    • Episode IX
  8. Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost

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    It'll be interesting to see what role Insider plays in the new canon. It's been a source of unique EU info for years, both in short story form and in reference article form (The History of the Mandalorians, etc). I wonder if it'll keep up a similar role, or whether it will enter another few years of top-ten-lists-galore dark ages.
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  9. CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus

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    I agree with every part of this except the Star Trek thing.
  10. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Awesome, I was planning on doing that eventually (especially if sources that take place between episodes , like TCW comics, are canonized). Thanks, it saves me some trouble :). I'll edit those in tomorrow.

    But they're pretty. With lovely music.
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  11. Jedi Princess Jedi Master

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    Glad I could help. I'm kind of an obsessive list-maker, and a timeline junkie since I was little. I like seeing how everything fits together; it's like a narrative puzzle.

    Since you seem to be a Star Trek fan, I'll share. When I was a teenager, one of the ways I coped with stress was by working out my own Star Trek timeline. I had decided that the one the Okudas released wasn't accurate enough. I had an ex try to diagnose me as autistic because of this behavior; I don't think I am, but it is an oddly soothing pass-time.
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  12. blackmyron Force Ghost

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    I'll throw out mine again - LEU (there's your toilet sound gone, 2ndQuest) for the "legendary" EU; and NU for the "neu universe" since there really isn't an "EU", as it's all one universe (yeah, I don't buy it, but let's humor them); also, because I like the obscure reference to Marvel's earliest attempt to create a... well, "new universe".

    Considering SW is only one of many settings that I do this for, I hope that doesn't mean I'm completely insane. (If it does, I'm still doing it, but it'll be good to know).
  13. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Going to need this for later.

    I say EU and LDU. Lucas/Disneyverse.
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  14. Jedi Princess Jedi Master

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    Well, there's nothing insane about being autistic (though insane is really more of a legal term than a medical one). I just don't think I am. Autistic, I mean. Or insane, for that matter, though I haven't been charged with anything to need to argue that one. :p
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  15. patchworkz7 Force Ghost

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    I remain shocked that INSIDER is still going, but there will always be ways to fill content, especially with the movies coming up.

    If they're smart they'll get away from letting articles dictate canon, and if they are going the hyper-inclusive route then they will want to be very careful what they consider canon and what they let through.
  16. Nobody145 Force Ghost

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    Hm, is Insider still printing short stories? Just curious if any short stories Insider publishes from now on will count as Legends or not, since the third Empire and Rebellion book hasn't been shoved into the Legends category due to its fortunate publishing date.

    Off-topic- I remember glancing through one issue of Insider once and they had one of those Q&A things that said Yoda has never been to Dagobah before Episode III. I promised myself never to buy another issue after that. And turns out that Q&A is even more worthless now after TCW decided otherwise. :p

    We could call the old EU the good EU and the new EU the post-Ultimatum EU? Hm, nah, that's too severe. :p Though I never actually read Ultimatum or touched an Ultimate comic in years, but from what I've heard, doesn't sound like I missed much.

    Hm, speaking of Insider, wonder how much will be left, considering there's basically no EU left to cover, and there's only so many interviews they can squeeze into one issue.
  17. blackmyron Force Ghost

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    The old Insider was always the exception. The standard for these types of magazines is the production of zero content information raised to an art form.
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  18. Staplepuffs27 Jedi Youngling

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    This is a great idea. Maybe as the new books come out, we can make a list of the Legends stories and "grade" them based on how much they contradict the "absolute cannon".
  19. Havoc123 Jedi Master

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    I don't see why we need to call the 'new EU' EU at all. It's not expanding on anything, it's a part of the neo-Lucas/Disneyverse.
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  20. darthzac14 Jedi Grand Master

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    I have never gotten a straight answer on this but what about any film or TCW adaptations (including TCW tie-in novels)
  21. LawgSkrak Force Ghost

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    Well, I guess if 'everything onscreen' is now canon, better squeeze the Droids, and Ewoks cartoons in there somewhere. Oh and the Holiday Special. Don't forget the Holiday Special. ;)
  22. Zorrixor Chosen One

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    I suspect this will also be a regular source:

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    [face_rofl]
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  23. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    The adaptation/novelization issue would be my top question at this point as well- they've long held a unique place in canon heirarchys. But if they were to ever change that policy, now would be the time.

    I'm not going to over-complicate it unless its necessary. If we can use a two letter abbreviation, it's better than three and keeps things similar to the way they have been.

    And LEU still sounds like "loo" if you try to pronounce it.

    Indeed- part of the fun.
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  24. StrikerKOJ Jedi Master

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    New Disney EU? More like P.U. amirite? *cough*

    I am curious to see what Disney now calls it. I could suspect a lot of confusion if we (collective we) still insist on the old EU being called "EU" while Disney starts calling their new tripe the "EU". Seems to be setting itself up for unnecessary argument.
  25. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    It all depends on how technical they want to get with the usage of the EU term- if they continue to use it to describe the NU material, I'll adjust the usage accordingly.