Full Series The *Official* Ahsoka in The Clone Wars thread (general discussion)

Me too

 

Eh...I guess I'm at O16. I don't hate her, but she had some really Sue moments that could've been toned down or "Shut up, Snips, we're doing it my way this time." I actually like Ahsoka but sometimes the I'm-always-right thing gets too much.

 

I miss her pre-mid season three days. She shouldn't rival Anakin for the Chosen One title.

 

QFT'ing the QFT.

 

I actually think the shift in Ahsoka's character into Mary Ahsueka began in season 4. I especially recall noting how she's being all sagely to that dumb Mon Calamari prince when not too long ago she didn't realize that wars have TWO sides to them.

 

That was actually one of the few times when it actually made sense for her to be all sagely, because it came immediately after–at least, episode-wise–Ahsoka got back from the grueling affair on the Trandoshan moon. That's bound to mature somebody. In fact, I think they used those two episodes as an excuse to mature her character in Season 4-5, and it worked sometimes, but not always.

 

Well, it made sense (to me) since she'd encountered Aurra Sing before. At least it showed her get shot by Aurra so we knew she wasn't perfect.

Yeah...can't argue with this, it annoyed me too.

Haha, I remember even at age 15, so right around Ahsoka's age and thus probably the audience they were trying to reach with her rebellious attitude, thinking "Hah! Get what you deserve for being a moron!"

 

<Dave>ZZ 28 for me</Dave>

anakinfansince1983 Oh, god, please don't remind me of the instant hologram revealer device or Ahsoka's ability to instantly have a Force vision.

 

GGrievous Yeah... Ahsoka's ability to "instantly" have a Force vision... by using meditation techniques taught to her by Yoda... so different from Yoda teaching meditation techniques to facilitate Force visions in Ep. V that Luke uses to "instantly" have them...

 

Oh man the device from that Mandalore episode.. the one where Ahsoka ended up lecturing Mando kids about corruption. It did the sort of !!!IMPOSSIBLE!!! thing that only lazy hollywood directorial types would even think possible.

Star Trek did something similar in the DS9 episode with the Cardassian guy posing as a war criminal in an attempt to get himself executed in some half-baked redemption scheme to deal with his inner demons and force Cardassia to face its deeds. The DS9 crew had this old grainy photo. First they magically upped it from something that an old instamatic camera took on low grade film, to sparkling 4k. Then they magically moved a guy out from behind another guy in the photo. I wanted to throw something at my tv. So, soooo stupid. The visual information was not there in that photo. It just straight up wasn't there, you can't extrapolate something from nonexistent information in the first place...

Then TCW did the same thing, with the hologram device recording a hologram, which subsequently displayed a person's face, despite the fact their face was invisible from the location the holo-recorder was in when making the recording.

UUURGH!

 

Yeah, that was pretty bad, didn't know about the DS9 thing though, that sounds pretty brutal too.

 

Ahsoka was the main character for the episode. I have my own issues with them using her in odd ways to make her the main character, but that's aside from my point which was it was no more "instant" a Force-vision than what we already see established in the Star Wars films. She was assigned a task and got Yoda's help. It wasn't the whole Jedi Council failing to do something and Ahsoka figuring it out on her own.

 

According to Dave Filoni's notes, he and his team had a story where "Ahsoka appoints Bo-Katan as provisional leader". In the artwork, Ahsoka appears to be a bit older, her outfit looks slightly different, and she appears in a hologram in front of the Jedi Council.

My initial thought is that after leaving the Jedi Order, she returns home, and something happens to her or her people to make her re-evaulate her future. She decides to returns to Coruscant and tries to make a difference by becoming a Republic senator.

 

How Tano could have potentially gone from a former Padawan who presumably struck out on her own (at least at first), to someone in a position to appoint Bo-Katan Kryze anything, is anyone's guess (I'd say "God only knows," but that's not true -- apparently Filoni does).

But anyway, I don't see any way in the world that Tano is equipped to become a Republic Senator, of all things. Let alone going from nowhere at all, politically speaking, to actually being chosen to represent a population of people she has never had any prior interaction with, whatsoever, all within the space of the year or so of IU time left between the moment she left the Order and the end of the Republic. It just doesn't add-up for me.

Points for thinking outside of the box, though.

 

Well, if Jar Jar can be a senator...

 

I'll dig out the dvd and rip the scene and youtube it at some point.

 

I got Netflix back for TCW and it has DS9, do you know what the episode name is or what season it was from?

 

Dark Lord Tarkas The episode name is Duet. Season 1 episode 19.

 

I was thinking that Ahsoka could have ended up on Mandalore as she saw Bo Katan and her Nite Owl group trying to clean up and reorganize the mess left behind by Maul. Maybe more like Ahsoka saw something she looked up to in Bo Katan. In the same way that Steela's own group on Onderon appointed her leader, maybe Ahsoka suggests Bo Katan actually lead the Mandalorians and tries to legitimize it by getting the Jedi buy-in. Of course provisional means temporary so not sure what the transition is.

This is more brainstorming, I know some of these ideas aren't fully formed. And possibly... This concept may have banked on the fact that Ahsoka stayed with the Jedi and was sent there by them? Maybe her whole path was revised from the early story meetings, those are two years out from airing. So this could be an alternate path.