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Clone Wars The *Official* Anakin Skywalker in the Clone Wars Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by JediLight, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

    Sep 3, 2012
    I've never teared up during Order 66 in ROTS. I'm not sure I'll be able to say that the next time I watch it now. And If they end up introducing the clan that he murders in the Council chambers...

    TCW has made Anakin's fall much more tragic IMO, especially this last arc.
  2. LordDallos

    LordDallos Jedi Knight star 3

    Feb 2, 2016
    "My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count."

    The Clone Wars destroys the continuity of this line. Anakin and Dooku duel in season 6, VERY close to the beginning of where ROTS sits in the timeline. Also, Obi-Wan's line of "This time we take him together" makes very little sense since they had just gotten into a duel with Dooku and took him together.
  3. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Knight star 3

    Oct 3, 2015

    According to my calculations, Anakin duels with Dooku four times during TCW. Three times on his own and once, the last time they duel before ROTS, together with Obi-Wan.

    Dooku wins one of the duels and captures Anakin, the other three end up with one of the combatants running away.

    And yeah, the line in ROTS sounds a bit funny knowing that Dooku and Anakin fought every few months during TCW.
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  4. daniel brown

    daniel brown Jedi Knight star 2

    Apr 23, 2015
    The last time they fight is in the Dark Disciple Novel, which is a few months before ROTS.
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  5. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Knight star 3

    Oct 3, 2015

    I totally forgot about that one. So Anakin and Dooku fought five times during TCW prior to ROTS. The duel in AOTC and their last fight in ROTS makes it seven. They probably knew each others moves inside and out by that point and Anakin's powers were 128 times greater since their first duel if they multiplied by two each time they fought :)
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  6. daniel brown

    daniel brown Jedi Knight star 2

    Apr 23, 2015
    There would have probably been a reason for Obi-Wan's 'do it together line' in ROTS. Maybe if Dark Disciple was animated, we would have been given an explanation, such as Anakin facing him alone?
  7. The Shadow Emperor

    The Shadow Emperor Jedi Master star 4

    Sep 29, 2012

    It's actually six times.

    -TCW film
    -Dooku Captured (briefly)
    -Shadow Warrior
    -Slaves of the Republic
    -Crisis on Naboo
    -Dark Disciple
  8. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Knight star 3

    Oct 3, 2015

    If I remember correctly, they do not duel in Dooku Captured. There is only some Force Lighting while Anakin chases Dooku down the shaft.
  9. Point_Of_View

    Point_Of_View Jedi Padawan star 2

    May 23, 2017
    Who is responsible for TCW Anakin's look and voice?
    As in, who decided to model him that way/cast who they cast?

    Because he looks and sounds nothing like Hayden. It's kind of ridiculous.
    You can say TCW Anakin is better, but that's irrelevant to the fact that there is no continuity.
    TCW Anakin has a much deeper voice, much more masculine looks, is less insecure 99% of the time, etc...

    Genndywars got the look and voice pretty close to Hayden, why couldn't Filoni?
    Why did Lucas let him make the main character a different character?
  10. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Force Ghost star 5

    Dec 7, 2014
    I don't see them as that different a portrayal. Less, Matt Lanter's voice noticeably deepens as the series goes on, but it's hardly a deal breaker in considering Anakin a different character. Palpatine's second voice actor in TCW also barely sounds like Palpatine, but it's still the same character.

    As for looks, he looks the same to me, especially once the Season 3 timeskip removes the CW era armour he and Obi-Wan wore for budget reasons.
  11. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

    Sep 2, 2012
    Obi-Wan & Dooku's beards were modelled on Genndy CW - but Genndy CW gives Obi-Wan a much more square beard than the movies or TCW does.

    Genndy-Anakin also seems to have longer hair:

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  12. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 25, 2013
    Could be in the credits. Never bothered looking myself, honestly, but I'd check for who's behind talent casting and who's behind voice direction. The answer lies somewhere around there, and obviously Matt Lanter himself for choosing to audition and keeping the role

    Apparently, Hayden was willing to do the voice for TCW Anakin, but they decided against it

    I think in CW (and a few other things like BFII and the Ep III video game) they had a Hayden impressionist (Mat Lucas, no relation to George) who did a decent job, while, while I like Matt Lanter's Anakin, he's not really even trying to sound like Hayden, but I think he gets the intonation right for the most part. How much of this is due to him and how much is due to his voice directors, no idea

    Also, this is really solely about TCW, gettin' extraterritorial and moving to SWTV section
  13. 11-4D

    11-4D Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Apr 6, 2015
    TCW Anakin seemed much more like young Vader. Seems they were going for that, rather than copy Hayden. Makes for a better character but zero consistensy.
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  14. unironically

    unironically Jedi Padawan star 1

    Jan 14, 2017
    I was hardly a fan of Genndy Anakin either, but whatever.

    Interested to know more, got a source or anything?

    I often caught myself mentally dubbing a lot of the voices in TCW with their actual film counterparts and just trying to imagine everything in live action. This is why I prefer the books and comics as far as tie-in media goes. You either get a 'realistic' art style (most of the time) or no visuals at all if its a book (in which case you get to be the director.) And all of the voices and sound effects, you can just mentally project onto each page. Genndy Wars gets my imagination riled up every time, trying to picture what it would look like if it were 'real', but with all the framing, the timing, the colors and the action kept intact.
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  15. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Knight star 3

    Oct 3, 2015

    If that really was the case, I wish they have used Hayden.

    But maybe he was more expensive or they were afraid he would leave after season or two?

    They could have used him for the movie at least. They had Sam Jackson and Christopher Lee after all.
  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Force Ghost star 10

    Feb 18, 2014
    Whoever did Dooku in the series did an amazing job.
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  17. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

    Jan 25, 2013
    That'd be Corey Burton, who's been a Christopher Lee impressionist for quite a while. I believe Lee himself even gave his compliments to Burton's impression

    I'm afraid I can't find it again despite my search, since it was really obscure, but I'm 99% certain it was legit. Hayden heard about the movie and called up to say he was interested, and I believe he said that he was given a "We'll call you" instead of a yes or no

    I think it's just a case of TCW Anakin being substantially different in terms of what facets of his personality needed to be shown as opposed to AOTC and ROTS. I think Matt Lanter comes across as more realistic compared to more.... how to word it.... I suppose theatrical, but in an antiquated sense of the word, which is a reason I prefer the movies to TCW

    On a side note, that's a common criticism of the movies I see. That the characters don't act realistic. I have a feeling that's not the intention to begin with lol. SW has quite the archaic feeling when it comes to presentation, and that's what I love about it
  18. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Jedi Master star 4

    Feb 2, 2015
    I loved the subtle mannerisms of Vader they gave to Anakin in TCW which we didnt get to see in the films.


  19. 11-4D

    11-4D Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Apr 6, 2015
    I think Hayden just didn't fit their version of the character.
  20. themoth

    themoth Jedi Master star 4

    Dec 5, 2015
    "It has been foretold the Chosen One will remain to keep my children in balance."
    "I cannot force you to do this, the choice must be yours. But leave, and your selfishness shall haunt you and the galaxy."

    *Anakin boards a ship, flies away and we hear strains of the Imperial March. Chill inducing stuff. Love that scene.