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The official BACK TO THE FUTURE TRILOGY discussion thread

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by BillyShears, Nov 23, 2001.

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  1. Eugene_Meltsner_AIO

    Eugene_Meltsner_AIO Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hey, guys, if BTTF were made today instead of 1985, what stuff would change? For example, instead of The Power of Love, Back in Time, etc., what would be the main song(s), what would the car be instead of a Delorean, that sorta thing? Amazingly enough, if they were to keep the thirty years back and forward thing, "1955" would actually be more like "1975," a mere ten years before the original came out and took place! Pretty wierd, huh?
     
  2. malducin

    malducin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    -Lord-Vader-, it's funny that you mention about someone coming up with something like BTTF. Actually the film Clockstoppers (which wasn't about time travel anyway) was promoted as the modern equivalent of BTTF. It was OK but it lacked everything that made BTTF great: a clever script, wity situations and sharp dialogue, superb direction, good characters, etc. Clockstoppers was more about "being hip" for teen audiences but lacked much of the heart and was mainly also a VFX showcase with your typical teen story and cast. The 80s were great because there wasn't much political correctness and crash commercialism and corporate comitee driven pics. If you went to see a cheezy Golan Globus film you knew what you were in for. Sure the movies were crappy but lots of fun and unapolegetic. Not that everything was OK, but the feel was a bit looser then.

    If it were done today, it would be inundated by crap techo, hip hop and flavor of the month music senstation songs. Most of the classic rock songs of the 50s would be cut out. The actors would be teen stars, hip flavor of the months, instead of getting good actors. Probably the editing would be MTV style head aching experience, with quick cuts and horrendous camera moves to compensate for the lack of good direction and stunt work. Some of the VFX thrown down your throat would be unecessary wire work and kung fu flips, some bullet time or freeze time shots, because we all know that makes a movie cool or good. The dialogue would have forced pop culture references to try to be clever. And the list would go on. But I'm not bitter, really ;-).
     
  3. Eugene_Meltsner_AIO

    Eugene_Meltsner_AIO Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh, never... 8-} Yeah, it's a good thing they did it when they did... Okay, how about this: if you were going to make the decisions of what would be the main songs, what would be the car (if the movie were made today), what would they be?

     
  4. Stridarious

    Stridarious Jedi Knight star 6

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    I liked those films, they provided me a hope when I was little of the ability of traveling back in time. And maybe even perhaps the hope to fix all the wrongs I had caused. I also hear that they cancelled the work on the newest BTTF movie. Which in a way I am glad they did. I can't see the films ever being the same without that cool car! 8-}
     
  5. BillyShears

    BillyShears Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I haven't visited this board for a longo time and I'm so glad it's still going strong! I'm getting all emotional now! (Wipes away a tear).

    The cool thing is, since I was last here my flatmates bought me the BTTF trilogy DVD box set for christmas! Needless to say, I was very pleased with this. Plus, its the first time I have seen the films in widescreen-it was like watching them for the first time...
     
  6. Mateo

    Mateo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I just got the BTTF trilogy on DVD on monday,its awesome and has alot of information about the films,i liked the deleted scenes especially the ones with Marty and Dave in the alternate 1985 and Bufford who kills Marshall Strickland.

    I have another question,in BTTF part 3 after Marty shows up and tells Doc Brown that hes just come back from the future and Doc faints how is he still able to survive being shot by Terrorists in 1985?marty didnt know where the ripped letters pieces were and couldnt have found them because he didnt know where the wind had blown them after Doc threw them on the ground.
     
  7. Stridarious

    Stridarious Jedi Knight star 6

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    Hey! Has anyone here seen any toys made based on the films? I would like to purchase the "time Machine" however, I have searched everywhere. I know they had to had made one. Yet where is it! 8-}
     
  8. malducin

    malducin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well I've seen a scale model DeLorean. Don't know if you would count that as a toy.
     
  9. Stridarious

    Stridarious Jedi Knight star 6

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    Maybe that might work! 8-}
     
  10. malducin

    malducin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Actually you can get it from Delorean's site:

    [link=http://www.delorean.com/bttf_car.asp]Back to the Future DeLorean[/link]
     
  11. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    I have another question,in BTTF part 3 after Marty shows up and tells Doc Brown that hes just come back from the future and Doc faints how is he still able to survive being shot by Terrorists in 1985?marty didnt know where the ripped letters pieces were and couldnt have found them because he didnt know where the wind had blown them after Doc threw them on the ground. [/b]

    if you look closely, in BTTF I he actually puts the peieces in his pocket so he can get the cable
     
  12. Mauls_Other_Half

    Mauls_Other_Half Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm a BTTF fan, and stumbled on this thread this evening.

    I have an old issue of Starlog magazine which had a great article about time paradoxes and the BTTF movies. I was about to mention it more thoroughly here, dig out my old copy and give you a few notes from the article...but someone else has been kind enough to retype the entire article on the BTTF.com message boards.

    Any BTTF fan should read this article...it will make you think more than you ever thought possible about the machinations of time travel and paradoxes, and you'll appreciate the genius of the scriptwriting in the BTTF movies all the more.

    [link=http://www.bttf.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001740;p=1#000008]The Return Of The Other Marty McFly[/link]


    Hope it doesn't make your head hurt too much...!

     
  13. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I love TBTTF Trilogy as much as I love the SW Saga, LOTR Trilogy and The Matrix Trilogy.
    My favorite quotes in there are
    "Great Scott-Doc"
    "Hello MCFly any body home?-Biff"
    "This is Heavy Doc-Marty"

    I think Michcal J Fox did a great job at playing Marty McFly as well the Older Marty, Marty JR and Martys Great Grand father in BTTF 3.
    As for my favorite BTTF it has to be BTTF 2 all the way.
     
  14. DarthHtrad

    DarthHtrad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    How could he have found the pieces anyway if he had thrown them? It was storming out. Those pieces would have been blown miles away.
     
  15. waheennay

    waheennay Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think Marty must have written another copy of the letter, torn it up, taped it back together, and left it for Doc before he traveled back to the old West. I was watching the trilogy again recently and I realized at one point there were FOUR DeLoreans all existing in the same time frame! Can you guys figure out when?
     
  16. Bad_Feeling

    Bad_Feeling Jedi Master star 4

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    In Back to the Future Part II, in the 1955 sequence, you're wrong though -- there was only ever three:

    -- There was the Delorean that Marty arrived in from Part I.
    -- There was the "Flying Delorean"
    -- There was old Biffs stolen "Flying Delorean"
    -- The Delorean in the Mine but this Delorean only appeared after the "Flying Delorean" was struck by lightning and sent back to the old West.
     
  17. Jon

    Jon Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Woah, mind boggling...

    Maybe the train was there too? I'd bet that Doc would have wanted to see the effect of the lightning strike from outside the car. :p
     
  18. Vaderbait

    Vaderbait Jedi Knight star 6

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    "This is heavy, doc."
    "Weight has nothing to do with it!"
     
  19. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I love those quotes as well.
     
  20. Tzan

    Tzan Jedi Youngling

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    Excuse me my language:
    Tell me, to how many mph they needed to accerlate in the third part using ChuChu (train)?
    And what is about the train numbers? - He returneg with nr 131, and the Doc appears with ELB. Who can explain?
     
  21. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What's also funny is that in BttF III Doc and Marty mirrow each other from the previous movies as Marty sees the gravestone.

    Marty- "Great Scott!"
    Doc- "That's quite heavy, alrighty." or something similar
     
  22. Tyranus_the_Hutt

    Tyranus_the_Hutt Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't know if this has already been discussed, but on the commentary track of the Criterion DVD of "Do the Right Thing", director Spike Lee and cinematographer Ernest Dickerson suggest that Robert Zemeckis was doing something borderline racist in "Back to the Future". Lee and Dickerson accuse Zemeckis of "re-writing history" in both "Forrest Gump" and "Future" - they specifically cited the scene in "Gump" where Forrest introduced Elvis to his particular style of dancing, and the famous sequence in "Future" in which Michael J. Fox introduces Chuck Berry to 'rock and roll'. My feeling is that while these scenes are quite obviously historically innacurate, the aforementioned films are both fantasies, which employ the "re-writing" of history as a means to payoff a joke. It's funny because we know that these scenes are fictionalized. Zemeckis was playing around, winking at the audience, and Lee and co. missed the point. What do others think?
     
  23. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What was on the borderline to being racist in the movies?!
     
  24. Tyranus_the_Hutt

    Tyranus_the_Hutt Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Billy_Dee! Billy_Dee! The answer to your question is contained within my previous post. Please read it again more closely. Also, I would like your opinion as to whether or not you agree with Spike Lee and Ernest Dickerson.

    EDIT: Okay, I just read your post more closely, and I think that I understand your opinion.
     
  25. Palpateen

    Palpateen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Spike less thinks EVERYONE is racist.
    He sees racism everywhere. It's all
    he thinks about. Remember, your focus
    determines your reality.

    I notice Zemeckis made the little girl
    who has LEADERSHIP as her main character
    trait in THE POLAR EXPRESS, a black character.
    I guess if he WAS racist he wouldn't do that
    because that empowers black kids to think of
    themselves as leaders. But I'm sure Spike will find a way to make that into racism as well.

    Maybe if Spike spent more time figuring out how to make good movies instead of criticizing others, he might have a track record like Robert Zemeckis which dwarfs Spike's meager career. For all the noise he makes, Spike's movies don't do very well.
     
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