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The Official Dark Nest III: The Swarm War Discussion Thread (spoilers allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The2ndQuest , Nov 27, 2005.

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  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Star Wars - Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen
    by Troy Denning


    <img src="http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/novel/img/20050718_bg.jpg">

    "In this explosive conclusion, Luke Skywalker summons the heroes of the New Jedi Order from near and far as the Star Wars galaxy teeters on the edge of eternal war. Yet even the combined powers of the formidable Jedi may not be enough to vanquish the deadly perils confronting them.

    The Chiss-Killik border war is threatening to engulf the entire galaxy -- raising the awful specter of the Killik sweeping across space to absorb all living creatures into a single hive mind. The only hope for peace lies with the Jedi -- who must not only end the bloodshed between two fierce enemies but also combat the insidious evil spread by the elusive Dark Nest and its unseen queen.

    Leia's Jedi skills will be put to the ultimate test in the coming life-and-death battle. As for Luke, he will have to prove, in a lightning display of Force strength and swordplay, that he is -- beyond a shadow of a doubt -- the greatest Jedi Master in the galaxy.

    Star Wars: Dark Nest III The Swarm War is scheduled for release in paperback on December 27, 2005 from Del Rey Books."



    Previous discussion of The Swarm War occurred in the [link=http://boards.theforce.net/Literature/b10003/12105339/?1347]Troy Denning's Dark Nest trilogy (spoilers allowed)[/link] thread.

    And for TJK-specific discussion: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/Literature/b10003/20457017/?1487]Official Joiner King Discussion thread[/link]

    For TUQ-specific discussion: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/21311331/]Official Unseen Queen Discussion thread[/link]
     
  2. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    THE SWARM WAR DRAMATIS PERSONAE:

    Alema Rar: Gorog Night Herald (female Twi'lek)
    Ben Skywalker: child (male human)
    C-3PO: protocol droid
    Cal Omas: Galactic Alliance Chief-of-State (male human)
    Corran Horn: Jedi Master (male human)
    Emala: War Profiteer (female Squib)
    Gilad Pellaeon: acting Galactic Alliance Supreme Commander (male human)
    Gorog: mastermind (Killik)
    Grees: War Profiteer (male Squib)
    Han Solo: Captain, Millennium Falcon (male human)
    Jacen Solo: Jedi Knight (male human)
    Jae Juun: Galactic Alliance Intelligence agent (male Sullustan)
    Jaina Solo: Jedi Knight (female human)
    Kyp Durron: Jedi Master (male human)
    Leia Organa Solo: Jedi Knight, copilot, Millennium Falcon (female human)
    Lomi Plo: Gorog Queen (female human... mostly)
    Lowbacca: Jedi Knight (male Wookiee)
    Luke Skywalker: Jedi Grand Master (male human)
    Mara Jade Skywalker: Jedi Master (female human)
    R2-D2: astromech droid
    Raynar Thul: UnuThul (male human)
    Saba Sebatyne: Jedi Master (female Barabel)
    Sligh: War Profiteer (male Squib)
    Tahiri Veila: Jedi Knight (female human)
    Tarfang: Galactic Alliance Intelligence Agent (male Ewok)
    Tenel Ka: Jedi Knight, Queen Mother (female human)
    Tesar Sebatyne: Jedi Knight (male Barabel)
    Unu: The Will (Killik)
    Wuluw: Communications Aide (Killik)
    Zekk: Jedi Knight (male human)
     
  3. EwokStromboli

    EwokStromboli Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I've been wondering this since TSW's DP was first released: What's the straight dope on his Wuluw fella?
     
  4. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Galaxy teeters on the edge of eternal war...life-and-death battle...yawn. Remember all the complaints about the "standard Bantam formula?" Well, I think we cna guess what the Del Ray formula is - the same, just more overblown and drawn out across more books.

    Anyways, I just hope that Pellaeon isn't killed.
     
  5. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    About time!

    1.) What will be the name of Jacen's daughter?

    2.) How will Luke prove himself Grand Master of the Jedi, reunite them, and turn them back into servants of the GFFA government?

    3.) What will Leia's Jedi trial be?

    4.) How will Jaina and Zekk be "unjoined"?

    5.) How will the conflict end?

    6.) What more will Luke and Leia learn about Padme and Anakin?

    7.) What will Jacen do next? :p

    8.) Who will die? I thought TD promised us "many funerals"?
     
  6. Kyptastic

    Kyptastic VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Only a month to go now
    Just wondering, who will Pellaeon side with in the Omas/Jedi Debate?
     
  7. Inara

    Inara Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm upset at the lack of Chiss. And Kenth Hamner.
     
  8. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    Awww! No Kyle listed :(

    Anyway, can't wait to see how Denning's going to wrap all of this up. :)
     
  9. DarthRotten

    DarthRotten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think if Pellaeon survives this, he needs to retire once and for all. The poor guy has fought in every war in the last 60 years!!! Which reminds me: If he is now out-of-retirement to run the GFFA military, who is running the Imperial Remnant? Personally, I hope it is Janek Sunber. Everytime he pops up in a comic, I think: He reminds me of Pellaeon; He'd be a good Supreme Admiral for the remnant.

    I agree with the comment about Del Rey having it's own formula too. I just keep thinking that this entire story could have been cut down and released as one book and we wouldn't have missed too much. I just feel like it takes so long to for anything to happen in these books. It's like watching an episode of Lost: Yeah, the atmosphere and mood are cool, but the only things that happen that will really advance the plot will happen in the last five minutes of each episode.
     
  10. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I just keep thinking that this entire story could have been cut down and released as one book and we wouldn't have missed too much.

    I don´t agree; I think that Denning tends already cut things down too much; there could have easily been couple of chapters more in both DN books, in which he could have explored some things more, give the stage to some characters we have seen less etc. And I liked both books immensely, so a trilogy suits me just fine.
     
  11. Vong_Killer

    Vong_Killer Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Though I don't agree that the scope of this story could have been cut down, I do agree that the story feels a little "already done"

    I just am all about Jacen Solo right now. He's as cool as Quinlan Vos and will hopefully be as dinamic a character during LotF as Quin was during the entire CW saga.

    I can't wait to see Leia kick some tentacle but and gain her night hood.

    V_K
     
  12. Gloria

    Gloria Jedi Master star 4

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    The thread is up! =D=

    Just thought I'd state the obvious. :p
     
  13. McMickMack

    McMickMack Jedi Youngling star 1

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    1) If the name is Padme, I will throw up.

    8) Totally forgot about that statement from Troy Denning! Perhaps instead of Dark Nest, he was alluding to LOTF? If he was talking about Dark Nest, then expect *multiple* character deaths of at least B-class characters.
     
  14. McMickMack

    McMickMack Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I disagree. It is a welcome change of pace for Star Wars. Most of the novels are EVENT driven, it is great to have a trilogy that is mainly about CHARACTER *development* Granted, I'll mention that I was very skeptical about the Dark Nest trilogy, and wasn't that keen on reading novels that featured bugs as the main antagonists, however, I truly have enjoyed the character development throughout the series so far, and feel that it is a great setup for where the characters will be set in place during LOTF.
     
  15. DavBacca

    DavBacca Jedi Master star 2

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    Yay, it's out the day after my birthday! I think I'll reread TJK and TUQ.
     
  16. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Jacen as cool as Quinlan? Um....

    Jacen cool period? Um.....

    The only reason I don't want Jacen dead is bc Tenel Ka shouldn't be a widowed mother.
     
  17. Teegirloo

    Teegirloo Jedi Master star 6

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    Well i dont think Jacen is going to die anytime soon.

    MMM - I agree with you on the character devolpment in DN i think its refreshing.
     
  18. Darklord07

    Darklord07 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hey TEE!
    Yeah I hope Jacen dosent die, and I hope theres alot more Saba and Leia!
     
  19. JacenSolo132

    JacenSolo132 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This book has to answer a lot of questions ... [face_mischief]
    I'm looking forward to it.
     
  20. McMickMack

    McMickMack Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What if this was an open-ended novel, with dangling plot threads unresolved? What if the novel finished like Matrix Reloaded, with resolution only to be found in the forthcoming Legacy of the Force series.

    Would you:

    A) Be highly frustrated and unsatisfied.
    B) Gripped by the storyline, and left hanging for more, excited for the buildup to LOTF?
     
  21. Vong_Killer

    Vong_Killer Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I want the Killiks dead, but I want some cliff hangers especially concerning the stages of character developement. Whatever happens to Jacen, IMO, is going to play DIRECTLY into LotF. We'll see all to soon though.
     
  22. PonyTricks

    PonyTricks Jedi Master star 4

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    These are my theories -

    Zekk dies. [face_skull]

    The bugs are driven away, or possibly killed by the Chiss. [face_dancing]

    Jacen and Tenel Ka marry, but Jacen still remains teetering on the Dark Side (it will be during Legacy that he's eventually 'brought back', probably by Ben. No more Solo children had better die, unless they figure out a way to bring Anakin Solo back from the dead) [face_mischief]

    Leia becomes a full-fledged Jedi. =D=

    Kyp dies. [face_skull]

    Jaina and Jag get back together. [face_love]

    That's my opinion. :D

    [hl=black]Ohh... and Omas dies, too, and Han becomes the next Chief of State... [face_laugh] [face_laugh] [/hl]


     
  23. PadmeA_Panties

    PadmeA_Panties Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Herm... well... um.... yea.... *ignores PonyTricks*


    Moving on....
     
  24. RedHanded_Jill

    RedHanded_Jill Jedi Padawan star 4

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    as long as luke finally gets to kick butt i am okay with whatever else.
     
  25. SoloFel_RebelGirl

    SoloFel_RebelGirl Jedi Knight star 5

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    as a rule, i dislike Troy Denning, but he can redeem himself in the following ways:
    #1: Unjoin Jaina and Zekk, and get Jaina and Jag back together.
    #2: More Kyp scenes, and it would be very nice if he had a non-Jaina love intrest.
    #3: MORE CHISS FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD! they're fastinating, even without Jag!
    #4: KILL ALL BUGS.
    #5: Let Jacen and Tenel Ka raise their daughter not in secret. I want to see the look on Han's face when he finds out.
    #6 Get rid of Corran as the 'leader of the Jedi'. Luke is a much better leader.
    #7: have Leia be a full Jedi.
    #8: Have Cal Omas BUZZ OFF. He gets seriously annoying.
     
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