Discussion The official dead characters in the ST poll

Han in VII, no one in VIII, maybe Luke in IX to mirror Yoda in VI. But I really don't wanna see my hero die.

 

And then Chewie's brother will avenge the death of Chewie by using a blaster that had been taped to the back of a toilet in a restaurant.

 

Agreed. This is my biggest problem with everyone wanting to see Luke die. He's been my all-time favorite character since I was 8 years old. I don't want him to die; why would anyone want to see a childhood hero get knocked off? It's also the reason I want to see Luke married and with at least one child (son or daughter; I want son but I will accept daughter). He deserves happiness, and it's natural to want a childhood hero to be happy.

 

a) Just because it does happen doesn't mean we want it to happen to our hero in front of our eyes.
b) I didn't mean to imply you had to be married to be happy. I just personally want to see Luke married, and think he would be happy if he were.

I don't want to get into relationship woes. I know marriages don't work for everybody, and if you don't want to get married–hey, fine! It's your life and your choice. But I think a lot of marriage problems come from different assumptions about marriage beforehand, and a saying I've heard: "Marriage is 50/50 effort." Wrong. Marriage has to be 100% from both sides to work. I've seen it with my parents, and I've seen it with many of their friends. You can't give 50% and expect the spouse to give the other 50%. You have to give your all, and then even if your spouse isn't (which they should be) then there's still 100% effort going into the relationship. Maybe that's why some people don't think "happy" when they hear "married." But I do, and that's what I want to see. You may not want to see it and you don't equate marriage and happiness. That's fine, and I understand it. But I would certainly be far more upset if Luke were divorced/never married than if he were married; if he were I'd be overjoyed. But that's just my preference. You have yours and I understand that. When the time comes, one of us will be disappointed, and honestly I have no idea which one.

 

To make sure it gets done right and is a respectful end to such a great character.

Unless you want the EU to handle it (and they will if the ST doesn't), and have another moon fall to kill another character...

 

I wasn't trying to lecture you, really I wasn't, I was just trying to tell you my opinion. And I know following a formula won't make a perfect marriage; no marriage is perfect. And if both spouses are giving 100% and still the marriage fails...then maybe they weren't destined to be together. Look, I'm really trying to sympathize with you. I am. But I guess our beliefs about life are just vastly different.

As to my childhood hero being immortal. If he's dead, I want him to die off-screen between trilogies. No reason for him to bite it to show "this is a bad dude." Or for any reason, really. I want him to live. He should die like Yoda, but that death should be off-screen. He doesn't need to be killed.

 

Off-screen deaths in a franchise like Star Wars means an EU death. Luke deserves better than having his fate decided in the EU.

 

I hope not. Luke should have a timeless feel to him whenever he appears; he can be hurt, badly, but he can never really die in any appearance he makes. Now, I won't decry the ST if Luke does die, but I'll probably cry shamelessly in the theater.

 

Which would do exactly what something like that should... add a LOT of emotion and draw you that much more into the film and thus make the film that much better!

 

But it wouldn't make it better if he died, at least for me. It can be an awesome movie without killing him off. It wouldn't make it worse, but it wouldn't make it better. For some it would, and again, I won't spit on the movies and say J.J. Abrams is the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, but I will definitely be very sad. My dad loved Tron Legacy, for example, but he said the death of Flynn disappointed him. Not in a good way, i.e. makes you care about the other characters and like the movie, but just made him feel like it was totally unnecessary.

 

I want Luke's death to be something soo emotionally powerful and sad that we all cry for hours and are all traumatized more than we were with Red Wedding (nah thats not possible because I doubt Disney has the balls to outdo that and nothing can beat Red Wedding). I want to be emotionally impacted! I hate these movie deaths that dont bring a single tear to my eye but then again it seems like the only deaths that bring any form of emotional reaction from me are from Game of Thrones or Star Trek

 

It would make it a better quality film simply because of the raw emotions evoked by a scene in the film. When film or theater can evoke such raw emotions, that absolutely makes suspension of disbelief that much easier to obtain, thus you forget even more that you are indeed watching a film.

So yes, the on screen death of Luke Skywalker could easily make it a better film.

A good comparison would be Dumbledore's death in Harry Potter.

 

Unless he dies patheticly *just killed in an explosion* or like in the first 10 minutes dies *like he Jor-els it. Has an epic fight with the villain, dies, and somehow the new hero survives, grows up and becomes all "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die" to the villain in which case that would be both disappointing and awesome*

 

And you can kinda say Spock's death in Wrath of Khan cause wasn't he in the same boat Luke is in? Fans assumed he was too iconic to die but low and behold...he did. And in both cases...they both technicly aren't gone forever *Spock was ressurected and Luke will most likely become a force ghost*
EDIT: I also hope that when/if Luke dies we all dont go freaking insane and start harasshing/stalking/sending hate mail and death threats to those we feel responsible (like George, Abrams, Arndt, heck even the villain actor). I can definitly see Luke's death causing a LOT of mass hysteria

 

And that would be the only reason Luke's death could be something that wouldn't cause me to be totally angry. I can see him again as a Force ghost.

 

I think its highly likely he'll return as a force ghost and we'll continue to see him throughout the rest of the trilogy

 

Luke as a Force Ghost is also an inevitible final chapter for the greatest Jedi of all time.