Personally I think it's a Ridiculous distinction, Art is Art. agreed. yay! Someone new's joined in! Sounds like you've got a pretty positive story there LGM, even if SVA was a little pricey - it's a shame you were forced to leave just coz you couldn't afford it, but that's the way of the world i suppose. Portfolios as stated earlier are Huge if you are to be a Successful artist/student It's funny, I don't really know coz i've never talked to anyone about it - but I always imagined that at art schools, the people who look at these portfolios had loads to go through - and so would prefer slimer versions, with carefully selected examples of only the best work... Well, that's what i would want if i had to do it! This is all falling on deaf ears, ain't it? No it's not Bar - I know what you mean about that 'quiet charm' thing... At least I think i do. I remember, when i was a kid, evrything i liked shared one quality which was the same. I'm not sure there's a word for it - but charm's pretty close, plus a bit of 'neat' too. And 'balanced'. I'm probably not making any sense. Kids like deffinites, and a world of strong boundries... maybe that has something to do with what I'm talking about... Anyway, it's also quite possible that I'm talking out my a***, so I'll shut up now! Can anyone tell me what's supposed to be in their little backpacks? Well you've quite obviously never had to travel among the stars, defeating evil as and when... A packed lunch of course!!