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Fascinating that means we could possibly get another show within 2 years.

 

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Thanks to Rogue One we know the Ghost was there at the Battle of Scarif, but which members of the Ghost crew were there at that pivotal conflict? Again, thanks to Rogue One we know that Chopper and Hera were on Yavin IV when the decision was made to go to battle, so there's a possibility that at least those 2 went to Scarif.

Thoughts, guys?

 

Merged with our Star Wars discussion thread since this goes into Rogue One territory.

 

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so, that ending bit... not unprecedented! Yoda did it in Rebels first! Reminder:

 

Regarding the revelation on Rey in TLJ

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I know a few people in the other forums have suggested that either it's just a ruse and that she still does have some kind of Skywalker blood in her (I think between you and me some people are ready to jump off a bridge otherwise); but if what was revealed about how her parents were rather unimportant "junk traders" is true, isn't it possible that the ST might be carrying on something that had only previously been shown in TCW and Rebels, the Force-sensitive children? It would certainly explain the little boy in the end. [\spoiler]

 

Good movie. Far from being flawless or to reinvent the wheel but not the worst thing ever. Though, judging by the reactions, re-watching it is recommended I will say.

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I loved everything about the Force, the unexpected mention of "Darth Sidious" and them discussing the Jedi order of the prequels. Luke's death was immensely poetic to me especially with the twin suns which is a mirror to ANH. Visuals were on par with RO to me. I was a little scared about Luke's actions in the flashback but then I realized Luke looking demented was from Kylo's POV and the reality was him just having a fleeting moment of weakness but then just like in ROTJ he stops just before going to the darkside but it was too late because Kylo woke up, the difference is that in the last flashback he's not planing to kill him.I don't blame Luke for Kylo killing his students, that was his choice just like Anakin made his choice. Yoda looked weird but it was touching seeing him and Luke again, though I would have loved seeing Anakin talking to him. Now Luke became more powerful than you can imagine, having finally faced his guilt and moved on. I loved Luke and Leia's reunion even if he wasn't really there.
"No one is ever truly gone", "See you around kid". Snoke's death was so hilarious after hyping him so much same for Phasma though I loved the cracked helmet, very reminiscent of Vader's broken helmet in SWR. I still love Finn and I love Rose and her line about not fighting those they hate but saving those they love, so Star Wars. The weird powers weren't really "new", there were some forms of it in other mediums both in old and new EU, the mirror cave was one of my favorite part as expected. I want more weird in SW. Rey's lineage was never a question to me, that was more fans being fans than the movies. They made it clear that what matter is ahead, not behind. Now to get the Art of TLJ and the Visual Dictionary, I'm so excited. I love that Holdo didn't betray Leia and was one of the good guys all along and Poe was being reckless though I guess she should have been more blunt from the start. Too bad she died too quickly. Leia using the Force, FINALLY! My thought feel really disorganized and I apologize for that and BB-8 is still awesome and that movie didn't have enough R2. Droids are the true heroes and nothing is going to change my mind.
Overall movie is between 7,5-8/10. I will have to see it again in a few months to know for sure.

 

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I think one of the best plot points in the movie was the establishment of Rose's character. It kind of reminded me of TCW and to a lesser degree Rebels; where side characters that are otherwise unrelated to any of the protagonists are given a face. She sees her sister KIA, and from then on her character is part of the story.

 

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I wonder if Luke learned that from Yoda or discovered it for himself. I also wonder if it's possible for Ezra and Kanan to learn it too or if only advanced force users can do it.

 

So how long will spoilers have to remain in this thread? Also when will we be able to use no tags at all?

 

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I noticed that, too! Also, when the visuals cut between Ben and Leia on their respective ships, I remembered Vader and Tano from Rebels. Maybe Johnson and Filoni exchanged notes.

 

Johnson and Filoni have actually met and had a fruitfull exchange. http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-live-action-tv-show/
“I have an incredibly talented group of people working here [at Lucasfilm]. They’ve worked for me all 12 years that I’ve been here. So I feel indebted to them and want to keep creating work for them so they can use their abilities and tell great stories. I also want to keep pushing myself into areas that are challenging and new. I’ve had a lot of experience now interacting with live-action directors like Rian Johnson who’s been really wonderful to me and showing me what their production is like.

 

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So do Rey and Kylo still have that mind link? Could lead to some interesting scenes in Ep 9 if they do.

 

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That's among the ongoing discussions in the film forums. I thought that mind link had a more devious connotation to it; that Kylo deliberately played into Snoke's game of sabotaging Rey's mind so they'd pair up, defeat him, and then rule the galaxy as a duo (like Vader wanted to do with Luke in overthrowing Palps).

 

In the previous movies/animation series everything revolved around dooming/saving the galaxy, and that purpose raised people to power. PT, OT and the Clone Wars animation series specifically state that preoccupation with personal gains allowed catastrophic things happen (Darth Sidious demise included). Now the galaxy got tired and resigned in a "do what you want, but don't expect to be paid" manner. I suspect they slowly move pieces into the game of thrones type of movies, where personal motivations of representatives of warring houses spin the history, not the history spins the representatives. In a way, we are offered to play a chessboard on its backside.

 

This is a pretty interesting article that ties the ST films with TCW and Rebels. Obviously it's loaded with spoilers, so don't even think about reading it until you've seen the movie (and you've seen all episodes of TCW and Rebels to date)

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http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/connecting-the-star-wars-animated-series-to-the-last-jedi

 

wow, not going to lie, I didn't make that connection despite it being right there in our faces. Great article overall.

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I wasn't thinking about the Mortis arc as I was watching those scenes in TLJ, but I can see how one might make that connection.

 

May be there is more parallels in 20 minutes which will be added to to the blue-ray version

 

My thoughts on the Last Jedi:

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Just saw it and woo boy what a hot mess. This movie is like an RPG where the player tried to break the game by making as many odd choices as possible (along with a pointless side-quest aka Canto Blight and the random horse rescue). Who was Snoke and how did such a dark-sider get into pow-oh he's dead now. Hey its Luke Sky-oh he's a nihilistic grumpy old man. Hey a nifty new Rebel leader lady-dead. Hey they're gonna achieve some master plan to escape the First Order fleet-oh it was pointless and actually detrimental the whole time. Oh Phasma, maybe she'll actually be interes-she's dead.

So Luke Skywalker, the man who redeemed Darth never-showed-himself-to-be-anything-but-a-broken-monster Vader doesn't give a flying flip about redeeming his nephew while Rey, who Kylo tortured, wants the boy redeemed because they touched hands. The politics of this movie were so stupid and simplistic. Everyone in Canto Blight must be rich from weapons deals and thus they deserve to hurt. Cause only jerks visit Vegas. Hey Rose, maybe somebody just wanted to watch Space Blue Man Group. The multiple-system spanning Republic that has reigned for decades is gone just from having their capital system destroyed and now we are supposed to believe that, aside from some scattered allies in the Outer Rim, all that is left of it and what it represented is mainly those aboard the Falcon? And way to snuff out everything in the OT and spit on its ashes. Everything they achieved is meaningless. Han Solo is dead. Leia's government is destroyed. Luke gave up on the idea of the Jedi. But hey, at least we got Porgs awkwardly shoved in everywhere. And Walrus boobs.

I mean, there were good and interesting parts of this movie. Kylo Ren and Rey were both fleshed out. Kylo's direction is especially interesting and I look forward ti seeing where it leads. Luke's discussion of the Force was neat. But mostly I feel like it was a step backward.

 

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I was thinking how little was revealed in the OT re: Anakin's fall. While I appreciate the prequels, The Clone Wars added helpful context. I hope the next animated series can explore Ben's fall. I like to think Ben had a better reason than "My uncle looked at me the wrong way."