The official, purely speculative, non social, beard and food theory thread.

Discussion in 'Attack of the Clones' started by Shoeless Jedi, Oct 17, 2000.

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  1. Darth-hole Jedi Master

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    I think we've only ever seen other drinks in the Cantina in Mos Eisley, Jabba's Palace/Sail barge and Cloud City.
  2. Shoeless Jedi Jedi Master

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    My 2 cents:

    The braid subject could mean one of 2 things. One, a well kept braid means you'll turn to the darkside, but we only have Anakin to prove this so it's not a very solid theory. 2 is that Obi Wan just had his longer and over the years it became more unkempt and ragged, which doesn't really play into the theory, so for now I say we add to the theory that if you're a padawan and you keep your braidall neat and tidy, you will turn to the dark side.

    As for drinks, it so far seems that they're all safe. i can't at the moment think of any way they really fit into food theory. Btw, very nice thoughts everyone, and great to see some new faces around.
  3. Darth-hole Jedi Master

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    i'm not sure we'll ever discover the meaning of the braid because we only have two examples of them.
  4. keokiswahine Jedi Grand Master

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    Anakin is still young in his training, so his braid would be neater, more intact. Obi Wan has been through many crises, battle experienced, therefore a bit more worn looking. That would be my take on the neatness/raggylooking of the padawan braids.
  5. Pushing Up The Daisies Jedi Knight

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    It has been suggested to me that Anakin's neater braid may indeed lead to the Dark Side in that it is surely a sign of Vanity.

    And that Obi-Wan ran out of Conditioner.

    Oh well.
  6. Darth-hole Jedi Master

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    so are you saying the dark side is clean, and the good side is not?

    hmmm, could this be a new theory?!

    lets think...

    Bad:
    Darth Vader - clean & shiny helmet
    Storm troopers - No dirt there
    Death Star - spotless

    Good:
    Chewie - matted fur, smells
    Luke - dirty from dessert
    Jar Jar - swamp thing

    Though there is a problem when it comes to:
    Jabba - dribble
    Boba Fett - dirty

    interesting, we must consider this more...
  7. Pushing Up The Daisies Jedi Knight

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    Hm...well, it'd be great if that worked but there are probably too many instances where it doesn't work.

    For every Palpatine=>Clean=>Is Evil

    there is

    Leia=>Clean=>is Good

    But then, Leia=>Likes *scruffy* guy=>is Good

    Unfortunately, I think Padme=>clean=>is good

    Though Anakin=>Likes clean girl=>turns Evil

    As you mention the Death Star being spotless and evil, there is Dagobah the mudhole where Yoda trained Luke in the Light Side of the Force. Except of course, the parts of said mudhole where the Dark Side is stronger. Hm....Well, the cave seemed to be a bit less damp and muddy, but it's so dark (no pun intended), it's hard to tell.

    Unless there is a more specific way to define "Clean" and "Dirty" I don't think this would work. It's too arbitrary.

    Luke=>has crush on Leia (Clean) => Potentially Evil Outcome! ;-)
  8. Pedro Force Ghost

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    There was that pic of Logan, I think it was, a while back, in the padawan outfit. He, of course, had a braid. It was nice and clean, too. Of course, if he turns out to be Boba Fett - the same Boba Fett from the OT - then that would lend support to the clean-braid-as-indicator-of-evil idea. But then again, there are going to be many, many Jedi, young and old, in E2. Being that Anakin, and possibly Fett, are the only ones that go bad, maybe the idea doesn't stand up. Dunno.
  9. Pushing Up The Daisies Jedi Knight

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    Maybe we're looking at it from the wrong angle.

    Given that of the padawan braids we have seen, only one was not neat and trimmed, perhaps the only option is to look into why *Obi-Wan's* braid seems to be the odd one out. Maybe there's something telling about the unkempt braid...

    Otherwise, I'm just about ready to drop the braid idea since it just doesn't seem to work.

    *One of these braids is not like the other...*
    *One of these braids just doesn't belong...*

    OK. Gotta go to work now.
  10. queeq Force Ghost

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    But then again well-kept braids could mean doom in one way or another. All the braids we'll see in Ep2 will die, perish or (in Boba's case) be abducted to turn evil.

    As for the drinks, I don't think we can say they are all safe. Everyone on Jabba's barge died (although that could have been caused by the food they ate as well) and the guy in the Cantina got his arm chopped off while he was eating. Even Greedo was drinking something at the bar when he looked over his shoulder to check out Han. Hmmm, there might be something here. But then again, the Cantina didn't blow up as far as we know, killing all the drinkers. I must think on this further.

    queeq out
  11. Polaris63 Jedi Master

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    However, drinkers may be evil...The folks in the cantina were scumy and villinous, so I'm told. The folks on the sail barge had to be baddies as they were hanging with Jabba. Even poor old uncle Owen is cramugeoney (sp). So I'll add that to the fire.

    btw- good to see some speculation back in the hizouse

    chin chin...
  12. queeq Force Ghost

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    Well, Owen might have been grumpy but he did drink Blue Milk. And we know that's harmless. Wasn't that little alien in the Cantina ordering Blue Milk as well?

    queeq out
  13. tracer123 Jedi Master

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    Hello, I am posting this reply, to make shure this will never turn to a social thread. This is the link to the new beardi forum....
    http://www.delphi.com/beardis/start
    Please go there to socialize.
    Thankyou, now we can stay on the seculation line.
  14. Pedro Force Ghost

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    queeq, Kabe ordered juri juice. So she's bad. If it weren't for that, I'd say she'd be good - any chick with a bat face is A-OK in my book. Alas, it's not to be.
  15. Shoeless Jedi Jedi Master

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    My 2 Cents:

    We will not be able to formulate a solid braid theory until we see more examples of briads and there condition. Hopefully Episode 2 will provide this, but thats a long time to wait, so hopefully more pictures come out before. Only time will tell....

    As for drinks, I like where we're going, some very good ideas are developing, keep it up!

    As for Clean vs. Dirty, this coul be a very nice offshoot theory that I think is worthy of exploring. Note how all the Rebel's equpiment, vehicles, etc. are all dirty and used, whereas the Empire's stuff is all clean and pristine? It all works into a theory that's worth refining. We must explore the exceptions we have so far so that we may come to a more solid idea. I also think it may somehow tie into the offshoot "scantily clad women" theory, though that may be getting ahead of ourselves for now....
  16. Pedro Force Ghost

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    Maybe clean/dirty is an inversion of the expected, much like the green laser bolts/red laser bolts of the bad and good guys, respectively.
  17. Shoeless Jedi Jedi Master

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    Ahhh, good laser bolt comparrison Pedro, I always thought that was a bit of an inverssion myself. We still need to work out the exceptions we've got to the rule so far....one of which hasn't been mentioned yet-the incredible tidyness of the Jedi temple (or is that a sign of their imminent fall?....)
  18. Pedro Force Ghost

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    Colors could come into play as well...
  19. Shoeless Jedi Jedi Master

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    Definitely true, I've already discussed the sybolism of color in food and it's effects, but we all know how symbolic Georgie boy is when it comes to color in all his movies, so I'm sure it comes into play with at least food theory and related offshoots.

    Also of note: This just in on TFn, new pic of bearded Ewan, don't think it reveals anything revolutionary, but still and exemplary example of the fine bewiggedness Obi shall sport in Episode 2.
    http://www.theforce.net/episode2/newspics/ewan-bearded-cinelive.jpg

    And now I must be off to bed. Carry on without me, I shall return tomorrow :)
  20. Pedro Force Ghost

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    Yeah, not bad. I still wish his mustache were better, though...

    And what's the pattern behind these two possible inversions? I mean, why inversions at all? Why two? Why *these* two, if they're true? These are the clues we need to etc. etc. etc.
  21. keokiswahine Jedi Grand Master

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    Shoe, let's take the clean/dirty, the red/green, the offshoot "scantily clad women" theory (not recommended), into a new thread. Vert said we were limited to beard and food only here.
  22. Shoeless Jedi Jedi Master

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    Keo,I don't see why we can't discuss hair and food theory offshoots in the hair and food theory thread. Heck, if it weren't for offshoot theories, the beard theory would be discussing beards only and not hair, and there wouldn't even be a food theory. These offshoot theories directly relate back to hair and food, so I think it's ok if they're discussed here. I mean like we could really handle another thread anyway? One thread under scrutiny of the admins at all times is enough for me thanks, and I should hope they agree....

    (^^^ - famous last words?)
  23. keokiswahine Jedi Grand Master

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    OK. I assume that if Vert doesn't agree, he will look down and give us the evil eye.
  24. queeq Force Ghost

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    Well we are speculating and NOT socialising. I think this is on topic. Beard=hair, Food=general name for consumption (with a little flexibility we can include drinks as well). Hair has different colours (especially in Star Wars), some cover their whole body with hair (wookiees) and some don't. And when we can see that some don't have their entire bodies covered with hair they are scantily clad. So it all ties int together.

    queeq out
  25. Shoeless_Sith Jedi Knight

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    There's too much talk in here about goodness and hair! How bout someone starts a discussion on the evil bald ones of Episode 2! No more of those bearded Ewan pictures, how bout some bald Sammy L Pictures?! Come on spy photographers, where are ya when we need ya?! Mwahahahaha!
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