Saga The Official Saga 3D Thread!!!

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by obi-rob-kenobi4, Sep 28, 2010.

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  1. obi-rob-kenobi4 Force Ghost

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    It has just been announced on the official site!

    Words just cannot express how happy/excited i am, we need to find out everything we can about this![face_dancing]





  2. zombie Force Ghost

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    Too bad they are starting with Episode I.
  3. Mond Jedi Grand Master

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    I knew one of the first responses in the thread would be something to this effect.

    And sure enough, there it was, spewed up right on cue. ;)


    People are going to spend the next 2 years fighting over "chronological order" vs. "order of release", aren't they? :(

    Anyway, this is really exciting news. For some reason, I want to see the Neimoidians talking to holographic Darth Sidious... in 3D!!!
  4. kenkraly2007 Jedi Grand Master

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    Good news to hear. Star Wars Finally in 3D.
  5. DARTH_BELO Force Ghost

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    FINALLY. But it'll take six YEARS to see them all!!! We're talking out to 2017!

    I wonder if this changes any viewpoints on possible special effects/sound enhancements for the Blu-Ray release next year...
  6. Darth-Mauls-Torso Jedi Master

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    Star Wars in 3D? This pleases me. But this is all assuming people aren't burned out by 3D in 2012. Still, the opening shot of ROTS in 3D would probably make my brain melt =P~ .
  7. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    I just hope the prequels do well enough to get us to the OT films.

    EDIT: I also wonder if the 3d is actually going to be any good, or if it'll look as bad as every other film that has 3D added after the fact.
  8. obi-rob-kenobi4 Force Ghost

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    I also just KNEW the very first response would be some kind of tired comment from a bitter fanboy. I love the fact that they are going to be released one year at a time because that way i truly think it will finally put an end to the people who simply over think the movies way to much and have nothing but bitter comments to ever say about them. This WONDERFUL and timeless sci-fi/fantasy/action saga will be seen by millions of families and young people once a year every year for years to come weather you like it or not and THIS TIME audiences KNOW just what to expect because everyone has already seen them at least once.

    BOTTME LINE: When a so-called fans family,frends or date want to go see Star Wars on the big screen in 3D and the person proceeds to explain why they are being such a party pooper and the reason is because they (like peter griffin once said) find it "rather shallow and pedantic" maybe then people will finally start to realize that it hasn't been trendy to hate star wars since 1999.


    The internet really can turn people into obsessive movie geeks and/or wanna be critics, when a fan is out in public and he really chooses to be "that guy" and not want to pay six bucks to see a star wars movie on the big screen then i really just dont know whats happening to the world.



    Like Luke Skywalker once sed "let go of your hate"[face_peace]
  9. Captain_Typho Force Ghost

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    All I'm going to say is this announcement along with the bluray release next year is going to help revitalize these boards. Look to see a lot of familiar faces (like myself) who have been absent for a while to start posting again and prepare for a bunch of new members to join up as well.
  10. Mond Jedi Grand Master

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    Ah yes, but did you predict the exact specific comment like I did? :D

    Ditto. I'm damn excited. It sounds as if they are putting some time and effort into the conversion process rather than doing the insta-conversion that the Last Airbender and other movies have been subjected to.


    Well, you know, if someone doesn't like the prequels, then hey they don't like the prequels. What I don't get is people obsessing over it into their 30s or older. Or saying the same things over and over again like a broken record. As I suggested earlier, it has reached the point where you know what that sort of person is going to say, often down to the specific words used, before they say it. But hating the prequels is cool with me.

    Anyway, that's getting off topic. I had assumed that it would be easier to make Episodes 2 and 3 into 3d because they were shot digitally, but according to the USA Today article, there is so much stuff flying around onscreen that those films would be the hardest. The Coruscant chase scene was cited as posing a considerable challenge. I think it would be worth the effort though - especially the Battle of Coruscant, which is so thick with various elements that I have trouble taking it all in from the 2d version (not necessarily a good thing, I know, depending on your tastes, but I think it's fun to go through and try to spot everything that's going on).
  11. Loupgarou Jedi Grand Master

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    Whether or not you like the prequels, you have to question the business aspect of releasing the Saga prequels first. The fact is that the public, as a whole, has a low opinion of the prequels. Very few people that aren't star wars fans will want to see phantom menace in 3d (and many star wars fans, like that first comment and admittedly myself, will probably skip the first two as well). And if no one goes to see the films, they won't make any money. Making it an even worse business decision to make more. Meaning we'd not get a OT 3d, and that sucks.

    See, if they made the OT first, those who didn't like the prequels so much will be still riding that Star Wars High that even non-fans can get every now and then. Making the prequels have a chance to be profitable.

    Seriously though, it's ok to love the prequels, but it's also ok to NOT love the prequels. It's not being a bitter fanboy to like one part of a franchise and not the other parts. It's not part of being in some sort of trend. You really need to let go of your hate, Obi-Rob. Every-one has their own way of enjoying the star wars universe, and you don't have to gobble up every last piece you can get to call yourself a fan.
  12. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    It seems worth noting that yours is the angriest post of the thread, deviating from discussion of the films to make personal attacks on groups of fans.
  13. Mond Jedi Grand Master

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    I wouldn't worry about it that much, man. From what I remember, TPM was disdained by hmmm... how should I put this... the more hip/well-read/knowledgeable/involved type of viewer, while Joe Blow moviegoer thought it was an enjoyable fantasy adventure movie. And kids were absolutely crazy about it. The latter two categories VASTLY outnumber the first. That's just my anecdotal experience of the reaction to the movie at the time of its release, but I'm guessing that TPM in 3d and its 2 follow-ups will do just fine at the box office.

    So you'll get your 3d OT, and the 3d conversion technology will be even more refined by then, resulting in a higher-quality 3d OT for you to enjoy (it will probably be the Special Editions though). Seriously, I don't think you have anything to worry about (well, except for maybe the SE thing ;) ).
  14. obi-rob-kenobi4 Force Ghost

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    *in yoda voice* "yes,yes to Mond you listen..."

    Just the fact that its Star Wars in 3D back on the big screen is enough to ensure that every little boy age 5 to 12 is going to drag his family to go see it at least twice. In 1977 the original film was a sound and light show for young people to enjoy with there friends/families, a simple action adventure fantasy for kids (and kids at heart) pure escapism. Thats what star wars has ALWAYS been about but the generation of fans that have grown comfortable and accustom to all the useless and over the top prequel hate have seemed to have forgotten this.

    So my point was that people who don't like the PT don't have to worry because this release is not for you. This release is going to get people to finally hop on or off the band wagon. Your ether going to be an active star wars fan until 2017 or not and the ones who supposedly hate the films so much don't have to go and pay to see the films if they dont want to. Its excellent because maybe this time they will let us enjoy the films without any crys of outrage. In fact i think this re-release of the PT will give manny people a new respect and understanding for TPM and AOTC just like how the 1997 re-release of the OT made people favor TESB over ROTJ. Opinions and trends change with time just like everything else dose.


    I for one am very happy that the fanbase is going to be growing even larger and will bring a whole bunch of new people and activity to these boards. Star wars lived through the hate. Let the good times roll.
  15. Mond Jedi Grand Master

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    This. I intend to have a blast. If TPM comes out in 2012 like they say, with one per year after that, I'll be 38 when it's all over.

    Though I'll probably go get some more popcorn or something during the fart joke and the "soft and smooth" scenes. ;)
  16. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Ultimately, I think this is going to depend on timing. Lucas would be well-advised to release the films at a time when there's not much competition, because frankly I don't think other producers are going to feel the need to dodge these films as they once did.

    If he releases TPM3D at a point where the theaters are mostly full of romantic comedies and arty Oscar bait, he stands to do well. But I think if he tries to throw it up amidst the likes of The Avengers or BatNolan 3 he's going to be disappointed with the reception.


    At least that's the story until people start to complain about the over-complicated and completely un-kid-friendly political stuff, right?:p

    Then the line becomes, "Of COURSE the PT isn't kid friendly! It's about the fall of the galaxy and Anakin turning into Vader. Lucas always said it would be darker. It's a brilliant and complex deconstruction of the dumb simplicity of the OT!"

    EDIT:

    Another thought just came to me. I've occasionally found myself defending 3D as more than just a gimmick, because as I see it it's an advancement similar to the addition of color or sound to the filmmaker's palate (although ideally films could be presented in 3D without the need for special glasses).

    As with sound and color, it's possible with enough effort to add this new effect to a film that wasn't originally designed for it. It's basically the 3D version of colorization.

    Which is why I'm suddenly finding a hilarious irony in Lucas of all people adding 3D to these films...
  17. Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost

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    You are fully entitled to your opinion, but still >>>>>>>:rolleyes:

    Anyway, FINALLY we are getting a confirmed timeframe. Too bad we won't have glasses-free 3-D by then yet. I really wish they hadn't pushed 3-D before breaking that barrier.
  18. halibut Chosen One

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    Enough of the PT/OT wars and stick to the topic of seeing the films in 3D
  19. Jmacq1 Force Ghost

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    I'm always pleased to see Star Wars films back in theaters, in whatever form, but I fear for the quality of the 3D conversion. No "converted" film I've seen yet was very good in terms of 3D quality, and I've not heard of any major breakthroughs in that realm, though I wouldn't put it past Lucasfilm/ILM to come up with their own "in house" conversion process. That, or simply re-doing many shots from scratch to better incorporate the 3D effects.
  20. Mond Jedi Grand Master

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    I'm a bit worried too. I haven't heard anything good about converted 3d movies (as opposed to shot in 3d).

    I'm confident that Lucasfilm will do the best they can. But they may still be stuck within the limitations of converted 3d. We'll see.
  21. Juan-King Jedi Knight

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    3D still gives me a headache .

    I'm still not keen on it , it's a gimick and it's often distracting .

  22. Darth_Napoleon_MN Force Ghost

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    When I saw this news last night I didn't even think of this. I was to excited to remember how much I hated the 3D conversions for both Clash of the Titans and Alice in Wonderland. The later I saw one week after Avatar. So it was a real let down.
  23. MeBeJedi Jedi Grand Master

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    I debated seeing Titans and Alice in converted 3D...things like that can be a distraction for me. I will say I've not heard anything positive about the effect in those films. It's nice to see the OT rereleased, and I may go ahead and take my kids to see it in the theater, but.....

    I wonder if there's going to be a non-3D rerelease as well....
  24. ezekiel22x Force Ghost

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    Yep. After Avatar my first thought was that the 3D elements were not worth risking a migraine.

    I'll sit these ones out.

    Unless Lucas releases the Ewok Adventures as well. Wilford Brimley > Luke Skywalker.
  25. ATMachine Force Ghost

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    I am personally not at all excited. I've heard nothing but bad things about originally-2D films that were "up-converted" to 3D. It's one thing to make a film with 3D in mind, and that process can give you stunning visuals. But it seems that, generally, the up-conversion of a film originally shot with 2D in mind will look horribly dark, dim, and ugly.

    So no, I think this change can't be a good thing for SW as a whole. We don't need the films looking even worse than they already do on the botched 2004 DVDs.

    And, as another poster mentioned, what if Lucasfilm tries to mitigate the problems of 3D up-conversion by redoing some of the special effects shots? This would certainly help the film look better, but the last thing I want from George right now is yet another round of SE tweaks.

    It's all very ironic, since Lucas came out so strongly against Ted Turner's colorization of old black-and-white films in the 80s. This is basically the same thing, in terms of butchering the cinematic integrity of films, but now Lucas is eagerly "modernizing" his own creations.
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