The *Official* Top 200 Video Games countdown #1: The Game That ALWAYS Wins

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  1. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    And now, the number 1 game!!!!

    Drumroll please....(and a title change, if you will, dear mods)



    #1

    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

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    Video footage



    Big surprise right?

    (comments to be added later tonight due to technical difficulties and lack of time)/>/>
  2. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    Don't have much to say since I haven't played it.

    But here's the full list:

    1. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    3. GoldenEye 007
    4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
    5. Super Mario Bros. 3
    6. Super Mario Bros.
    7. Super Mario World
    8. Halo
    9. Half-Life 2
    10. Star Wars: TIE Fighter
    11. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
    12. Super Smash Bros. Melee
    13. Metal Gear Solid
    14. Super Mario 64
    15. Half-Life
    16. Mass Effect
    17. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
    18. Civilization II
    19. Metroid Prime
    20. Perfect Dark
    21. Mario Kart 64
    22. Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
    23. Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
    24. Final Fantasy VII
    25. Chrono Trigger
    26. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    27. Tetris
    28. Halo 3
    29. The Sims
    30. StarCraft
    31. Halo 2
    32. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
    33. Grand Theft Auto III
    34. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
    35. World of Warcraft
    36. Neverwinter Nights
    37. The Legend of Zelda
    38. Star Wars: Battlefront II
    39. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
    40. Age of Mythology
    41. God of War
    42. Resident Evil 4
    43. Street Fighter II
    44. Diablo II
    45. The Legend of Zelda: Link?s Awakening
    46. Final Fantasy VI
    47. Portal
    48. Super Mario Kart
    49. Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
    50. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest
    51. Sonic the Hedgehog
    52. Rock Band
    53. Guild Wars
    54. Age of Empires II: Age of Kings
    55. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    56. Mike Tyson's Punch Out
    57. Contra
    58. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
    59. Sim City 2000
    60. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    61. Civilization IV
    62. Guitar Hero II
    63. Super Metroid
    64. Super Mario Galaxy
    65. Donkey Kong Country
    66. Tecmo Super Bowl
    67. Mega Man 2
    68. Call of Duty 4
    69. Pokemon Gold/Silver
    70. Kingdom Hearts II
    71. Grim Fandango
    72. Football Manager 2006
    73. Myst
    74. Unreal Tournament
    75. Mario Kart Double Dash
    76. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    77. Lego Star Wars
    78. Pac Man
    79. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
    80. Guitar Hero III
    81. Mortal Kombat II
    82. Kingdom Hearts
    83. Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 (PC)
    84. DooM
    85. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
    86. Jade Empire
    87. Donkey Kong
    88. Deus Ex
    89. Star Wars: Rebellion
    90. The Oregon Trail
    91. The Sims 2
    92. Final Fantasy X
    93. Galaga
    94. Super Mario Bros. 2
    95. Fallout
    96. Star Wars: Battlefront
    97. Lego Star Wars: the Complete Saga
    98. Elite
    99. Shadow Of The Colossus
    100. Max Payne
    101. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    102. Devil May Cry
    103. Command and Conquer: Red Alert
    104. Banjo-Kazooie
    105. Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2
    106. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Arcade Game
    107. Roller Coaster Tycoon
    108. Madden NFL 2004
    109. Donkey Kong Country 3
    110. Return Fire
    111. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
    112. Metroid
    113. Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
    114. Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
    115. Sim City 3000
    116. Wario Ware
    117. Duck Hunt
    118. Final Fantasy VIII
    119. Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance
    120. Splinter Cell
    121. Marvel vs. Capcom 2
    122. Lode Runner
    123. Team Fortress 2
    124. Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal
    125. Neverwinter Nights 2
    126. Final Fantasy IX
    127. Super Mario All-Stars
    128. Evil Genius
    129. Star Wars: X-Wing vs TIE Fighter
    130. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
    131. Eternal Darkness: Sanity?s Requiem
    132. Super Smash Bros
    133. Ms. Pac Man
    134. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    135. Medieval: Total War
    136. Zoo Tycoon
    137. Sonic The Hedgehog
    138. Homeworld
    139. Kirby Super Star
    140. Bioshock
    141. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    142. Spy Hunter
    143. Mario Kart DS
    144. Bubble Bobble
    145. Mortal Kombat
    146. Donkey Kong 64
    147. Freespace 2
    148. Lego Star Wars: The Orginal Trilogy
    149. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
    150. Guitar Hero
    151. Dungeon Siege
    152. The Orange Box
    153. Skies of Arcadia Legend
    154. FIFA 2008
    155. Golden Sun II: The Lost Age
    156. Populous
    157. Diablo
    158. NFL
  3. -polymath- SFF:F/TV Trivia Host

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    Predictable and yet still so right. This game hit every proper chord for RPGs, IMO. It was a lot of fun playing through the game for the first time and experiencing the game's depth. The story just worked and it was brilliant fun.

    =D=
  4. AmazingB Manager Emeritus

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    I'm going to keep saying it: No FFIV = travesty.

    Amazing.
  5. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    star 8
  6. roxez Jedi Knight

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    Okay, so official standings for the ones I picked, my rankings in bold next to the official count.

    2/5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    3/10. GoldenEye 007
    4/3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
    5/9. Super Mario Bros. 3
    19/2. Metroid Prime
    25/1. Chrono Trigger
    27/15. Tetris
    42/4. Resident Evil 4
    45/6. The Legend of Zelda: Link?s Awakening
    64/7. Super Mario Galaxy
    70/8. Kingdom Hearts II
    87/16. Donkey Kong
    99/17. Shadow Of The Colossus
    124/12. Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal
    130/11. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
    155/13. Golden Sun II: The Lost Age

    And the four on my list that were missed:

    Star Fox 64 (my rank 14)
    - How was this missed? Intro of Rumble! Full voice overs! Oh well, I can see that it wasn't exactly the most deep title.

    Wii Sports (my rank 18)
    - Admittedly I added this more for the impact on the industry rather than the comparitive quality of the game. Great game due to what it represents more than what it is.

    Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (my rank 19)
    - How Sonic 2006 got on the list and not this is absolute travesty. [face_not_talking]

    Time Crisis II (my rank 20)
    - My favorite game in the arcade. Never was good at it, but almost every arcade had it.
  7. AmazingB Manager Emeritus

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    Jan 12, 2001
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    Did you send a list?

    My complaining would be far less amusing to me had I sent a list. If I had known this was happening, I probably would have.

    Amazing.
  8. Vengance1003 Jedi Grand Master

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    Only took 6 months! :p
    KOTOR is a really good game, but it's not excellent and memorable in the sense Grim Fandango or Mario games are. So I declare this list flawed.
  9. Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost

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    I'm pretty sure Sonic 2006 didn't actually make the list. There was probably just some confusion with wording of the title when people sent their lists.
  10. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    Or they were pulling a Street Fighter which in that case it would be perfectly acceptable.
  11. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    One of these days I'll get around to fixing my PC fully and starting KOTOR again (only played the first level before it crashed/control glitches I was experiencing at the time made it unplayable).


    I'm not entirely convinced at this point- there are lots of areas you can "see" in OOT but can't get to (either due to insurmountable obstacles or it merely being a background image), but almost every nook in ALTTP can be accessed (via Dark World warps), if only tenporarily (warping into a rock forcing you back to the Dark World, etc).
  12. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    Edit the title, you moderator you!
  13. _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master

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    Ocarina of Time defined my prime gaming period. Before hand I loved my Sega and my NES, but me and my sister were pretty much the equivalent of the n64 kid when we got our n64 and I got Zelda. I played that game for hours on end, and even still play it till this day.

    KOTOR is what actually got me back into Star Wars. I first loved it at the age of 6 and then cooled down when AOTC came out. I took about a year or two break, and I got KOTOR with my Xbox and gave it a go. Who knew then that I'd be spending my whole Christmas break playing it and that it would throw me back into the world of Star Wars Obsession. It also has the highest replay value a game could have. I've played and completed it about 10 or more times now.
  14. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    Jul 13, 2005
    star 7
    I've never played KoToR. :(
  15. JediKnight20043 Force Ghost

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    Sep 18, 2004
    star 5
    Lets all point and laugh at Inty.
  16. Katana_Geldar Force Ghost

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    Mar 3, 2003
    star 8
    Let me just say that I put this game on my list to vote BEFORE I had played it myself, why, I knew it would be that good. I always promised myself after it came out was the day I got a new computer would be the day I played KOTOR, when I got a new computer I didn't have much money left for anything else so I had to borrow the game from the library.

    I waited at least five years to play his game, and it was not only as good as I expected it to be it was better. Once I got past the fact that i could not play it like you're average game (like Diablo or Jedi Knight) it was fan-bloody-tastic and it was responsible for my lack of sleep and walking around like a zombie for the better part of two weeks.

    I only had the game for a few weeks, finished it in a few days of continuous playing and i was amazed at how much there was to discover for the gamer who wanted to take their time and enjoy the game rather than just getting through and beating it. I didn't have time to go dark side toom much, next time I will.

    However, yesterday I finally decided to go and get my own copy so i could play it whenever I liked. Where I live there are basically three places where you can buy games and none of them had this game which i consider to be a classic that will continue to live so i'll have to get it online.

    KOTOR is the deserved winner IMHO as we are all Star Wars fans and there is a part in all of us that wants to be the jedi or the Sith Lord. Playing KOTOR was where you could walk around the galaxy like you were the Big V, and it ROCKED to be you!

    BTW, Malak is a dancing poncy git who deserved the name meatbag? Remember how much he jumps? I felt ashamed at my former apprentice being such a show pony.

    :-B :cool: [face_hypnotized] 8-}
  17. Anakin_Sockwalker Jedi Master

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    Jun 11, 2005
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    While I greatly enjoyed KOTOR, there are a lot of better games out there, IMO.
  18. GrandAdmiral_Frank Jedi Master

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    star 4
  19. Oissan Force Ghost

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    Mar 9, 2001
    star 6
    Nah, there is only one game that comes somewhat close, and that's Civ II.

    I had my fair share of incredible time-consuming games that I couldn't stop playing, but nothing is even close to the first playthrough of KOTOR. And while KOTOR II has improved on the game-play, KOTOR still stays almost perfect in every regard.
  20. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    Jun 14, 2001
    star 10
    in your should-be-more-humble opinion, my dear ;)

    KotOR is overrated. It doesn't suck, I played it 5 times or something, but it's only an RPG with lightsabers and an I'm your father moment.
    It's not even the best SW game. That goes to Jedi Knight ;)
  21. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    KotoR? o_O

    I'm actually almost surprised. I can think of at least half-a-dozen other Star Wars games I'd probably put before it, and even more games which I'd just expect to place above it.
  22. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    Thanks. [face_blush]




    I love Star Wars with an almost unconditional love, so for me, it can do no wrong. But with KOTOR, it did everything right for me. It was heaven for this particular Star Wars nerd. I love KOTOR and KOTOR II and eagerly await the real KOTOR 3.



    And lol @ the title. Is it sad that I actually had a dream about this thread and that the title wasn't going to say "KOTOR" but Star Wars: Obi-Wan or something else?





    Anyway. So I'm sorry this tournament took so long, but I did roll out the Top Ten in ten days as promised, so ha! :p

    As far as Sonic the 2006 version goes, I think it was a matter of title confusion. As I said before, there a lot of variations on a title name for a lot of games and it gets confusing. And since some people specified the system a game was on and others didn't, it got even more confusing. So, sorry for that. Always next time, eh? :p

    I was thinking for the next tournament we should go back to the other tournament style with voting and all that? I was also thinking that we should do it centered around Video Game Characters.

    Yes, no, thoughts?




    (I'll be posting the KOTOR comments later this morning)
  23. Sabre_11 Jedi Grand Master

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    I'd be interested in seeing a top video game characters countdown, would be fun.


    And hilarious if Revan was voted number 1 :p




    Also, I didn't visit this side of the boards when this countdown started so I didnt vote in it, but I was happy with the placings of most games, and was only confused by a select few.

    Great work getting the entire list done + the images and comments Yane, was good to have a thread to come and check daily to see the latest additions and everyones reactions to them :) =D=
  24. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    Aw, I'm happy that this thread managed to bring someone new over here! :D That's awesome.

    Thanks for all your kind words, Sabre_11. :) Hopefully you'll participate in the next tournament, yes?
  25. Sabre_11 Jedi Grand Master

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    Jun 1, 2005
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    Certainly will! I'm already thinking of my list in my head, and its filling up too fast with all my favourite characters :D

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